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Thread: Is the house healthcare reform bill unconstitutional ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    Well, at least until 2011. Huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    I think we can count on the party of obstruction to continue. When, oh when, will they actually come up with a viable alternative?

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    I'm wondering the same thing, JDogg....there's still a chance this health care bill can be made palatable.....

































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    You mean to say the Republicans are the obstructionists...and for a minute I actually thought you were broad-minded....oh well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    Apparently the number of state AG's is now up to 10.

    One third of the Senate is up for re-election in 2010. In addition, a couple of elections will occur to fill unexpired terms....Illinois and Mass. come to mind. Are enough Democratic Senators running for election that if they lose, the majority will shift? Dunno.

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    A shift of just ONE will be a good start, although a greater shift is needed to show our President that the decisions he is supporting and the votes cast by the Congress are NOT supported by the MAJORITY of the American people.

    He sure followed the polls while he was running. He's ignoring them now....hope he keeps that up!

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    Keith-

    The problem in passing this thing is very different from rescinding it. The Dems needed 60 votes to be certain that the bill wasn't filibustered to death. Once it passes, the Repubs will need the 60 votes to prevent the filibuster. That means a swing in attitude or persuasion of 20 members of the Senate. That's huge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    Keith-

    The problem in passing this thing is very different from rescinding it. The Dems needed 60 votes to be certain that the bill wasn't filibustered to death. Once it passes, the Repubs will need the 60 votes to prevent the filibuster. That means a swing in attitude or persuasion of 20 members of the Senate. That's huge!

    Eric

    We just need to stop the landslide that will bury us all.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by K G View Post
    We just need to stop the landslide that will bury us all.....

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    And it's always nice to see the "INDEPENDANTS" view on these issues eh?

    Pretty much like the so-called Blue Dog Democrats....

    THEY ARE "ALL" SOCIALISTS!!!

    But like the phoney indies on this board, they continue thinking we don't see them for what they are.

    Is there any doubt what you are DNF or Jdogger, or Yardley, or the others that reside here proclaiming their independance, while never missing a beat in falling on the sword for the Democrat majority.

    If it's anything that pisses me off, it's their attempt at convincing us they are something they are not, and their condescending patronizing. I'm tired of you thinking I'm that stupid to believe you are anything but George Soros/Algore/Obama disciples. So please stop your phoney charade. We might have more respect for you if you find a principle and stick with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K G View Post
    Perhaps they can class-action this "bill" until late 2010 when the "nuclear majority" can be undone and maybe return some semblance of democracy to our country.

    Cloture should be stricken from our system of government regards,

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    So you believe, for example, that a small minority of Senators should be able to completely block appointment of conservative judges if they so choose?

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    How to fall on your sword

    Falling on one's sword is a particularly meaningful and honorable activity, but sadly one not everyone is able to do. This article aims to teach a prospective sword-faller the tricks of the trade. Keep in mind that in all likelihood you will only have one shot at this, so read the entire thing carefully before attempting this.
    If you have attempted to fall on your sword already and are reading this, you have failed. Next time, follow directions and read the entire article before proceeding.

    Setup

    First, you need a reason to be falling on your sword. If you don't have a reason yet, now is the time to pick one. The more worthy your act is of a sword-falling, the slower the motion your fall will appear to observers in, so be sure to do something really awful if you want splashes of blood and wooshy sound effects. The most common reason for falling on a sword is a betrayal of someone in a profound and irreparable fashion. Act to create a reason now. If you have done this correctly, someone will ask you to fall on your sword.
    Next, have a deep and thought provoking conversation with this person. Reject the idea of falling on your sword outright, but slowly warm to it. Be sure to discuss the meaning of life and ultimately deliver a monologue about honor and/or courage. Or something. If you do not have a sword yet, someone will give one to you now.
    Now you are ready to continue to the next step.

    Execution

    You are finally ready to fall on your sword. This is the hardest step, so here are some common mistakes and how to avoid them.

    Common mistakes
    • Do NOT attempt to place the sword on the ground and then fall on it. The sword will fall over and you will end up looking like an idiot. Hold the sword the entire time you are falling on it.
    • Do NOT suddenly decide that you'd rather not fall on your sword and turn it on someone else. The sword will almost certainly be rigged so that it kills you anyway, and you will end up looking like an idiot.
    • DO make sure not to impale yourself in any part of the body other than the chest. Doing so will lessen the drama and make you look like an idiot. Likewise, do NOT attempt to find out what having a sword in the genitals feels like.
    Keeping the above in mind, proceed to grasp the sword with both hands and extend them in front of you so that the sword is pointing back towards your heart. Keeping the sword in this position, lean forward by your toes until you begin to fall. Continue falling until the sword pierces your chest and completely impales you.
    If you successfully impaled yourself but are still reading this, you may now deliver another monologue. Be sure to dramatically conclude it... with your... last... breaths.




    Always hold the sword up when falling on it. Never attempt to see what a sword to the crotch feels like
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    So you believe, for example, that a small minority of Senators should be able to completely block appointment of conservative judges if they so choose?
    Sorta like one or two Senators can extort their colleagues into BUYING their votes?

    Nothing like EQUALITY for all, huh Jeff? So Nebraska and Louisiana get special treatment because Harry Reid et al caved to get the votes they needed on Health Care? The sky's the limit now.......

    Conservative judges (a LOT safer for the country than liberal judges, IMHO) are the LEAST of our problems right now. Congress has a hard time obeying laws as they are written, much less how they will be interpreted in the future.

    INDEED regards,

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