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    Does Obama Realize We Are at War Yet?



    Refusing to interrupt his Hawaiian golf vacation for almost three full days after the Flight 253 attack, President Barack Obama finally emerged on December 28th to assure the American people that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was “an isolated extremist” and that he had already “been charged with attempting to destroy an aircraft.” Continuing to treat the incident like a common law enforcement problem Obama referred to Abdulmutallab as the “suspect” five times and promised he would “not rest until we find all who were involved and hold them accountable.”

    Perhaps Obama should have stayed on the links for another 24 hours, because by yesterday it had become exceedingly clear that Abdulmutallab was in no conceivable way “isolated” and was instead very much part of al Qaeda’s larger war on the United States. Here’s what we know so far:


    According to CBS News, as early as August of 2009 the Central Intelligence Agency was picking up information on a person of interest dubbed “The Nigerian,” suspected of meeting with “terrorist elements” in Yemen.
    According to the Wall Street Journal, the father of Mr. Abdulmutallab warned the CIA of his son’s likely radicalization at the U.S. embassy in Abuja, Nigeria. That led to a broader gathering of agencies the next day, including the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the State Department, in which the information was shared.
    According to CNN, information on Abdulmutallab, including his passport number and possible connection to extremists, had been sent to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, but it sat there for five weeks and was not disseminated.
    Also according to the Wall Street Journal, the National Security Agency who had been monitoring former Guantanamo detainees in Yemen had communications intercepts suggesting a Nigerian was being prepped for a terror strike by al Qaeda operatives in that country.
    And the Washington Post reports that not only did the British government reject an Abdulmutallab visa application this May, but that British Home Secretary Alan Johnson said that U.S. officials should have been told about the rejection and that he believes they were.



    Faced with this preponderance of evidence that Abdulmutallab did not act alone President Obama finally admitted yesterday that “a systemic failure has occurred. And I consider that totally unacceptable.” It may have taken Obama four full days to reach this conclusion, after both White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano spent all of Sunday trying to convince the American people that “the system worked”, but his belated acknowledgment of the seriousness of the situation is welcome.

    Also belatedly welcome is the acknowledgment that al Qaeda is a major force in Yemen that must be dealt with carefully. The Washington Post describes al Qaeda in Yemen as a ”major new threat to the United States,” but there is nothing new about it. In fact, al-Qaeda’s first terrorist attack against Americans came in Yemen, the ancestral homeland of Osama bin Laden’s father, who had migrated to neighboring Saudi Arabia before the birth of the al-Qaeda leader. In December 1992, bin Laden’s followers bombed a hotel in Yemen that was used by U.S. military personnel involved in supporting the humanitarian food relief flights to Somalia. And in October 2000, seventeen American sailors on board the USS Cole, were killed in an al-Qaeda bombing in the harbor of Aden, Yemen’s main port.

    The Obama administration must stop thinking of al Qaeda and Abdulmutallab as mere criminals. Obama’s blindness to Abdulmutallab’s al Qaeda connections and his insistence on calling him a “suspect” in the “alleged” bombing is the same mindset dictating Obama’s decision to send Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other terrorists to New York for a civilian trial in federal court. Hopefully this incident will prod Obama into revisiting that historically bad decision.


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    I know how much you guys hate it when we mention Bush. Well since Cheney crawled out of his shell to criticize Obama on this, I figured this quote might be of interest:

    Of course, after the near identical situation in 2001, when shoe bomber Richard Reid attempted bring down an airliner, the Bush administration waited nearly a week to comment, and then only in passing, and Reid was (presumably after being read his Miranda rights) tried, convicted and sentenced in a civilian court.
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    It appears the bastion of left wing thought is not happy with Barry right now:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/30/op...dowd.html?_r=1
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    Listening to BHO talk about it he said that he is saddled with years of pevious policy. Its really W's fault.

    Obama and Bush are taking a trip in a RV. Bush is driving, he puts on the cruise control on and gets up and heads into the back for a pee. The RV crashes. When asked why he did not do anythings or take control he said that it the previous policy
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    I'm very tired of hearing the old "We inherited or saddled with previoous policy or lack of clear policy since..." excuses. The man has been in office for almost a year now. Stand up to the podium and take responsibility for either your actions or lack there of!! So far he hasn't show the cahones to accept responsibility for anything!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watrdawg View Post
    I'm very tired of hearing the old "We inherited or saddled with previoous policy or lack of clear policy since..." excuses. The man has been in office for almost a year now. Stand up to the podium and take responsibility for either your actions or lack there of!! So far he hasn't show the cahones to accept responsibility for anything!!

    But DON'T tell that to his apologizers. Like I've said before, they won't discover any problems with their messiah until the Iranian tanks make a right turn down their main street.

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    If we are at war, then act like we are at war. Wars are huge cash burners. The previous prez set us on a course to fight two wars on borrowed cash when he lowered the tax on the well healed. It looks like we are heading for a third and possibly fourth front. If you are going to fight a war raise the revenue to cover it.
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    We'll take the first steps to "righting" this situation in November 2010....especially if BHO and his cast of incompetents continue on their current path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeus3925 View Post
    If we are at war, then act like we are at war. Wars are huge cash burners. The previous prez set us on a course to fight two wars on borrowed cash when he lowered the tax on the well heeled. It looks like we are heading for a third and possibly fourth front. If you are going to fight a war raise the revenue to cover it.
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