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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Don't you see? We're playing right into their hands by all this partisan infighting. For every Soros, there's a Swiftboater. Meanwhile, your voice has been reduced to extra donut money for campaign center workers.

    If 100,000 voters send in their grass roots $20, a company with a contrary agenda can write a check for $2,000,001 and out shout every one of those people. And those people are you and me.

    I don't see how a republican or democrat or anyone else can see this as anything other than the corporate takeover of our gov't. Someone pointed out this is already happening....well just wait, you ain't seen nothin' yet!
    It is hard to see it any other way. This ruling without some common sense limits effectively has monopolized politics to the Corporations and the rich.

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    i don't see how anyone believes that the constitution was written with free speech for CORPORATIONS in mind.

    in my opinion this is a BIG STRETCH of the interpretation.-Paul
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    I keep hearing about Soros. What a freaking joke. Dave, it's not a case of "for every Soros there is a swift boater." For every Soros there is a Murdoch, Coors, Olin, Scaife, DeVos and Bradley. And in fact, Soros was just on a mission to copy what these conservatives had already accomplished for the right. So to counter act him, the right has:



    With a single, disastrous 5-to-4 ruling, the Supreme Court has thrust politics back to the robber-baron era of the 19th century. Disingenuously waving the flag of the First Amendment, the court’s conservative majority has paved the way for corporations to use their vast treasuries to overwhelm elections and intimidate elected officials into doing their bidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
    i don't see how anyone believes that the constitution was written with free speech for CORPORATIONS in mind.

    in my opinion this is a BIG STRETCH of the interpretation.-Paul
    There are 5 Supreme Court justices who disagree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    There are 5 Supreme Court justices who disagree with you.

    Yes, those strict constructionists have effectively re-written our constitution, in the single most egregious act of judicial activism we've seen since Dred Scott v. Sandford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Yes, those strict constructionists have effectively re-written our constitution, in the single most egregious act of judicial activism we've seen since Dred Scott v. Sandford.
    Wish we had a few more just like them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    Wish we had a few more just like them!
    So when it suits you, judicial activism is good.

    Glad we got that cleared up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K G View Post
    We're talking "paid" advertising, Bill. It is media-blind. All it needs is a BIG checkbook. Who has lost their free speech rights? All that's happened here is that the guy (or organization) with the biggest pile of money gets the biggest voice. Are you saying that "evens the playing field?" I sure hope not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    KG, I take back every bad thought I ever had about you. It looks like you're a reasonable guy after all!
    So Buzz, only if people agree with you, you think they are reasonable?

    Glad we got that cleared up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    I don't know of any radio stations that are sold out, we all have inventory without having to add any more. I love the high rates Issue Advertising yields as it allows us to keep cost down to the local advertisers.
    Be careful, Franco. If you're running political CANDIDATE ads (which you will be...there are three windows this year), lowest unit rate will KILL you. I've heard that political advertising agencies already have their audit teams in place and that ALL political schedules, from dogcatcher to US Senate, will be audited. No one wants to write checks back to politicians after a campaign....nor do they want to go to Federal court for price gouging....

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