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    It's part of the good Lord's plan for us to be annoyed by our grown children and for our grown children to be annoyed by us.

    Otherwise children would never become independent and move out.
    Just for the record I have very fine dogs. Some of the best in the whole country....or at least on my own block anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Guthrie View Post


    You all are making me feel bad now.

    Think I'll email Pelosi and tell her I loved her hair.

    Or maybe I'll just call my dad and say I'm sorry. I really don't know what for...but I will.
    Mr. Guthrie,
    I don't know you but I know all to well the situation you described.

    My Dad also was a Union yellow dog Dem.
    To worsen the situation, my son is an Obama supporter.

    My Dad is gone now, we don't get to argue politics much.
    I miss him......


    My son however, gets it straight and hard!!

    "The only thought more frightening than the thought of men argueing religion & politics is the thought of men NOT argueing religion and politics!!"


    PEACE!!


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    I grew up in a solidly Democratic household. Not just my parents, but my aunts & uncles and grandparents. Also solidly blue collar. They were all firefighters, police officers, truck drivers, heating & air conditioning, auto workers, you get the picture. Strongly pro labor. Aunts & Uncles, big time JFK Democrats. Grandparents who lived through the depression, big time FDR Democrats.

    Despite this, my dad and I still manage to get into VERY heated discussions. In the '90s he supported Clinton, I hated him, I never voted for him. I supported Tsongas, then Perot. In 2004, he supported Howard Dean, I couldn't stand the guy. I was supporting Wes Clark. In 2008, he supported Obama, I couldn't stand him. I supported Clinton, would have supported Clark again if he ran. This year during the healthcare debate, I was very frustrated with Obama's lack of leadership and told him that we would end up with a bill that would cater more to the special interests than the people. He disagreed, said that Obama knew exactly what he was doing.

    So, you don't have to be on opposite sides of the fence to disagree. I guess you just have to do the best you can to make sure it doesn't become too personal.
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    Our youngest son spent a year in College studing in Finland and came back a a very left wing liberal. Went to Obama's victory rally in Chicago.

    I figure I have better chance of Him coming back around by NOT talking about politics together. I'll let time, children, and taxes do the work for me.


    I would choose rather to argue with people I don't really know and care about (i.e. Yardley, dnf777, Precisionlabradors, Buzz, etc) , than with family.

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    i am older than most on this site[64] my dad was a solid democrat and i started out as one, i did not leave the party they left me.i find it hard to support any one who doesn't share my views.i try to vote for the person and can't understand voting the party line without regard for the person.i a'm from illinois so i might as well not even vote,for every vote i cast, there are 10 dead people in chicago that vote democrat. i was not a mccain supporter but i thought he was the lesser of 2 bad choices

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluto562004 View Post
    i am older than most on this site[64] my dad was a solid democrat and i started out as one, i did not leave the party they left me.i find it hard to support any one who doesn't share my views.i try to vote for the person and can't understand voting the party line without regard for the person.i a'm from illinois so i might as well not even vote,for every vote i cast, there are 10 dead people in chicago that vote democrat. i was not a mccain supporter but i thought he was the lesser of 2 bad choices

    As someone that outranks you by a few years, I couldn't agree with you more.

    I too was raised by a Democrat father that thought FDR and Harry were the very best. He was never union, and very self reliant...thinking individual responsibility was the most important virtue as an American.

    He was still Democrat up to the time McGovern ran. He thought that man was as unAmerican as anyone could be. Suddenly, as the "baby-killers", as he refered to them, took over that party, along with all the 'gays' (My word, not his), he switched parties. It was about the same time as I switched also.

    I've admitted on other posts to having been a JFK voter. I also stated when McGovern ran against Nixon I didn't vote, thinking I had no candidate...much like this '08 election. Reagan was the first real Presidental candidate I could get "on-board" with and be an enthusiastic supporter and follower.

    The first Bush had a great wife, and alowed the proper leaders to run the military. Clinton was a political womanizing joke that belittled the office, and had he not used the '94 midterms to re-focus his direction, he would be vying for the worst of all time, rather than the present fiasco fighting off Carter for that honor.

    The 2nd Bush was a good man that attempted to try and get along with the pathetic wing of the left, by enacting most of their spending programs, while thinking just the tax cuts could overcome all that deficit. It did for a while, but the cost of the war along with the back-stabbing by the Barney Frank cabal causing Freddie and Fanny to kill the economy by exposing the fraud of the huge derivitive-loaded banking institutions to collapse.

    Obama is so far over his head that as he becomes more distraught by not being friends with all his minions, and the programs continue to fail that he wants to succeed so he can maintain his "messiah" status, I suspect he will become unstable and more childish than he is now appearing.

    Eventually even those that have fallen on the sword for him will come to realize they put into the greatest office in the world, a charlatan. And worse, he's surrounded by equally incompetant phoneys and corrupt SOBs that are only in it for their own self aggrandizement while building an oligarchy...intent on making the USA just another socialist country.

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