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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    And if Clinton had killed Bin Laden when he had the chance, we wouldn't have gone to Afghanistan...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    OK, I'll bite:

    When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. -Jimi Hendrix

    And that's all I have to say about that.
    The only question I have is when will that be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    Maybe it is because you are so obviously trolling.



    Whoops... wrong again.

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    More like running a "trot-line" than trolling.........



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    This thread got me thinking, scary, I know. I started thinking about how I am sick and tired of the USA subsidizing the rest of the world. We subsidize the rest of the world's drugs by paying significantly more for prescription drugs than everyone else. We subsidize medical equipment by paying up to 10x what others pay for MRI equipment etc. We also subsidize the rest of the world through our military spending, to among other things, keep oil flowing out of the middle east. I started hunting on the internets and came across this graph. It was an eye opener for me.


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    Here's an idea: show this graph to all the extremists in the world that have declared Jihad on the US. Perhaps they'll realize that if they leave us the he!! alone we'd spend less money on the military and could bring prescription drug and medical equipment costs down....whaddya think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K G View Post
    Here's an idea: show this graph to all the extremists in the world that have declared Jihad on the US. Perhaps they'll realize that if they leave us the he!! alone we'd spend less money on the military and could bring prescription drug and medical equipment costs down....whaddya think?

    Just a thought regards,

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    I don't think there is a connection between military spending and the cost of prescriptions and medical equipment. But the fact is, we are subsidizing the rest of the world in these areas. It's not like we are the only ones under attack from terrorists, and it's not like military spending began the day after 9-11. Is there a possibility that other countries can afford their social programs and safety nets because we are subsidizing their lifestyle?
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    I suspect that our economy is now so dependent on feeding the military machine that withdrawal would be almost impossible. I sometimes wonder if the world would be better or worse off if we were a little more conservative about using our military power. Over $1 trillion of the proposed Federal budget is related to the military, including things like Veterans Benefits and the defense related components of Homeland Security along with the $800 billion being programmed for the Defense Department itself (base plus currently anticipate supplementals). There is actually no strategy for balancing the budget that does not involve massive reductions in military expenditures (say $200-300 billion per year).

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    I guess I was hopin' one of our resident "independents" could explain how a guy gets a Nobel PEACE prize, then sends trrops into a war and spends more money on NUKES??

    No answer???

    Not surprised...........

    rk
    Hummm….yeah…I know I should pass but …

    Have you stopped to consider the alternative? We let the stockpile degrade to the point that it becomes unreliable…then what? The weapons that we have used for 60 some years to keep us safe are now not safe in our backyard. Nor are they safe, God forbid, if we ever have to use them. Nuclear weapons are effective when the other side thinks you will use them and has a high degree of confidence that they will work as advertised. To let them decay doesn’t seem logical to me. Perhaps you can help me better understand…

    OR

    Would you rather we unilaterally turn our weapons over to the IAEA and dismantle the weapons labs. Is that what you would rather see happen? That doesn’t seem logical, nor sound defense policy to me. Perhaps you can help me better understand…

    MAYBE

    You would have us tailor out some of the money for...oh, let's see, research...no...development...no…security...yeah.. .security. Now we have nuclear weapons that are not as secure as they should be to prevent the ever changing and growing threat of unauthorized access, use or compromise. That doesn’t seem logical…take it from here…

    PERHAPS

    You would rather the scientific base developed to support the weapons program not exist or exist on the payroll of someone else. Think through that for a bit and let me know how many ways you can spell PROBLEM…take it from here…

    Now this part I am serious about: Please, you solve the stockpile problem and post your answer here. I promise you I will get it into Mr. D’Agostino’s hands.

    THIS Really is the Deep End of the Pool Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    Hummm….yeah…I know I should pass but …

    Have you stopped to consider the alternative? We let the stockpile degrade to the point that it becomes unreliable…then what? The weapons that we have used for 60 some years to keep us safe are now not safe in our backyard. Nor are they safe, God forbid, if we ever have to use them. Nuclear weapons are effective when the other side thinks you will use them and has a high degree of confidence that they will work as advertised. To let them decay doesn’t seem logical to me. Perhaps you can help me better understand…

    OR

    Would you rather we unilaterally turn our weapons over to the IAEA and dismantle the weapons labs. Is that what you would rather see happen? That doesn’t seem logical, nor sound defense policy to me. Perhaps you can help me better understand…

    MAYBE

    You would have us tailor out some of the money for...oh, let's see, research...no...development...no…security...yeah.. .security. Now we have nuclear weapons that are not as secure as they should be to prevent the ever changing and growing threat of unauthorized access, use or compromise. That doesn’t seem logical…take it from here…

    PERHAPS

    You would rather the scientific base developed to support the weapons program not exist or exist on the payroll of someone else. Think through that for a bit and let me know how many ways you can spell PROBLEM…take it from here…

    Now this part I am serious about: Please, you solve the stockpile problem and post your answer here. I promise you I will get it into Mr. D’Agostino’s hands.

    THIS Really is the Deep End of the Pool Regards,

    Joe S.
    Don't scold RK too much after all, he has waited 8 years to say something bad about the Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe S. View Post
    Hummm….yeah…I know I should pass but …

    Have you stopped to consider the alternative? We let the stockpile degrade to the point that it becomes unreliable…then what? The weapons that we have used for 60 some years to keep us safe are now not safe in our backyard. Nor are they safe, God forbid, if we ever have to use them. Nuclear weapons are effective when the other side thinks you will use them and has a high degree of confidence that they will work as advertised. To let them decay doesn’t seem logical to me. Perhaps you can help me better understand…

    OR

    Would you rather we unilaterally turn our weapons over to the IAEA and dismantle the weapons labs. Is that what you would rather see happen? That doesn’t seem logical, nor sound defense policy to me. Perhaps you can help me better understand…

    MAYBE

    You would have us tailor out some of the money for...oh, let's see, research...no...development...no…security...yeah.. .security. Now we have nuclear weapons that are not as secure as they should be to prevent the ever changing and growing threat of unauthorized access, use or compromise. That doesn’t seem logical…take it from here…

    PERHAPS

    You would rather the scientific base developed to support the weapons program not exist or exist on the payroll of someone else. Think through that for a bit and let me know how many ways you can spell PROBLEM…take it from here…

    Now this part I am serious about: Please, you solve the stockpile problem and post your answer here. I promise you I will get it into Mr. D’Agostino’s hands.

    THIS Really is the Deep End of the Pool Regards,

    Joe S.
    That's all great, not sure how deep your end is.....BUT....wasn't President Obama the one that was talking about leading the way to nuclear disarmament throughout the world??

    " President Barack Obama is seeking increased funding for nuclear weapons research and security programs next year, even as his administration promotes nonproliferation and has pledged to reduce the world's stockpile of nuclear arms."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQx45ro_PT8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTB-LDWoETA


    Kinda hard to follow this guy........things change awfully quick!!
    Guess it ain't all that deep after all if you have a short memory....huh??



    rk
    Last edited by road kill; 02-02-2010 at 07:30 PM.
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