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    Kevin, thank you, that too was worth the read.

    Those dogs in the pictures look a lot like working dogs I see.
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    reminds me that I had a grandson of Super Chief a long long time ago - great looking and good field work - held back by his handler of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Parker View Post
    I think the show labs are bred the way they are because that's what the general public wants most of them just want a house dog so for the breeders it's all about selling puppies.


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    You have any photos of Super Chief or Super Tanker you could post?
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    I agree that these pictures show more of the field labs then the show dogs, but...I feel that "field breeders" are more concerned with the function then form. From the people I have talked to the dog has to look right but function is the key. After all, if the dog doesn't do what it was originally bred to do, in my mind, isn't a "dog," it is something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiMeister View Post
    I agree that these pictures show more of the field labs then the show dogs, but...I feel that "field breeders" are more concerned with the function then form.
    I agree.

    Breed to the standard (form and function) and you should have a good dog.
    Form and function were matched according to the standard back when that book was written and those pictures were taken.

    If the function of the Lab is to work, who is currently breeding the correct form?
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    Those pics look a lot more like the field dogs I see today than the show dogs running around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableLabs View Post
    I agree.


    If the function of the Lab is to work, who is currently breeding the correct form?
    very good point. however, you do have to admit that little or no consideration is given to form by the field breeders. should the field line have no standard for conformation, and instead have an alternate "performance based" conformation?

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    I should have said one more thing --

    These pictures are from an age when dual champions were not only a possibility, they were a reality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by david gibson View Post
    very good point. however, you do have to admit that little or no consideration is given to form by the field breeders.
    If there was any advantage to paying attention to form, ie. to chase a dual championship, I think they would pay more attention to form.

    But the only dual dogs nowadays work the other direction, they take dogs with show-form and prove they can do MH work. History says it should be the other way, we should take field-form, which is true to the function, and they should be competitive in conformation.

    But that would require a whole new paradigm of thinking in the breed's fancy.
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