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    It merely was a cut for the extreme rich, while YOU and ME, and our progeny get to shoulder the burden, while Bush and his buds go fishing in K-port on million dollar yachts.

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    Absolutely not true!
    All the tax bracket rates were cut.
    THe lowest rate BEFORE was 15%
    Bush created a 10% bracket.
    I could list them all out but not just the rich benefited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Please don't burden yourself with monitored my schedule. You wouldn't like it!

    But PLEASE feel free to comment on the subject matter, especially Bush using parliamentary tactics (the same ones the dems are being attacked for by the very people who used them under Bush) after winning by a popular MINORITY of votes. You know, since it was mentioned that Obama had the audacity to claim a mandate after winning with over a 10 million vote margin.
    ah yes the Audacity of Hope ( never read it)....how much of that clear mandate(undisputable) that he HAD, support what he is doing now...I dont know if you have stated your opinion before on this healthcare legislation, but being the healthcare professional that you are, do you support the passage of the bill....or would you also like to deem your choice too
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Please don't burden yourself with monitored my schedule. You wouldn't like it!

    But PLEASE feel free to comment on the subject matter, especially Bush using parliamentary tactics (the same ones the dems are being attacked for by the very people who used them under Bush) after winning by a popular MINORITY of votes. You know, since it was mentioned that Obama had the audacity to claim a mandate after winning with over a 10 million vote margin.
    I don't believe any President sense Reagan has had a mandate. We have been picking the lesser of two evils ever since. Look at who we've had to choose from on the national ticket Dole, McCain, The Clinton's, The Bush's, Gore, Karry, all of these people sucked, and now the Republicans ran some old man that looks like The Crypt Keeper against a young charismatic used car salesman, who just happens to be a commie, and you think he has a mandate because he won by less then 1%.

    People don't want what he's trying to shove down their throats, and he knows it. That's why he won't answer a question, he knows if he does people will see the impact this bill will have on them personally, and he'll lose even more support for that junker he's selling.

    As far as your schedule, I just stated the obvious. I was scrolling through the thread, seen where you threatened to train dogs for a while, then there you were again. Not that I've been out in the snow and the mud, but that's another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    I don't believe any President sense Reagan has had a mandate. We have been picking the lesser of two evils ever since. Look at who we've had to choose from on the national ticket Dole, McCain, The Clinton's, The Bush's, Gore, Karry, all of these people sucked, and now the Republicans ran some old man that looks like The Crypt Keeper against a young charismatic used car salesman, who just happens to be a commie, and you think he has a mandate because he won by less then 1%.

    People don't want what he's trying to shove down their throats, and he knows it. That's why he won't answer a question, he knows if he does people will see the impact this bill will have on them personally, and he'll lose even more support for that junker he's selling.

    As far as your schedule, I just stated the obvious. I was scrolling through the thread, seen where you threatened to train dogs for a while, then there you were again. Not that I've been out in the snow and the mud, but that's another story.
    I didn't claim he had a mandate. I merely compared his claim against W's, who actually lost the popular vote, yet held to a mandate attitude. Bush and his congress shoved more things down people's throats than Johnny Holmes, yet that all seems to be ok. Even though between two wars and a record tax cut, and record deficits and expansion of gov't powers, nobody seemed to mind too much?? No, I havent read Audacity of Hope, nor am I an ardent Obama supporter, but things HAD to change. We were teetering on the edge of a cliff, and are still grasping at loose gravel to hold on. I just don't see the logic in sticking to policies that brought us to the brink of disaster. Maybe Obama will fail also, that's yet to be seen. Bush and the conservative policies (if you want to call them that!) had proven themselves failures.

    Just because I'm not a W disciple, does NOT mean I'm an Obama fan. There's room in the middle. Believe me, I'm not alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post

    It merely was a cut for the extreme rich, while YOU and ME, and our progeny get to shoulder the burden, while Bush and his buds go fishing in K-port on million dollar yachts.

    quote]

    Absolutely not true!
    All the tax bracket rates were cut.
    THe lowest rate BEFORE was 15%
    Bush created a 10% bracket.
    I could list them all out but not just the rich benefited.

    Ok, so the average family in NW Pa can buy another carton of marlboros per week, and the average AIG exec can buy another G-5 jet. At the cost of $2 trillion over the life of the cuts. Those budget shortfalls are passed onto the states and municipalities, schools etc....everything that has to cut services, close schools, raise local and state taxes or face budget crises that we see across the country....and who suffers the most for it? Middle and lower class citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    I don't believe any President sense Reagan has had a mandate. ...
    Reagan's popularity varied widely during his presidency. In January 2003, he had an approval rating of 42% and a disapproval rating of 54%.At this time in his Presidency, Reagan's ratings were comparable to Obama's. [http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...ntVersion=true]

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    I didn't claim he had a mandate. I merely compared his claim against W's, who actually lost the popular vote, yet held to a mandate attitude. Bush and his congress shoved more things down people's throats than Johnny Holmes, yet that all seems to be ok. Even though between two wars and a record tax cut, and record deficits and expansion of gov't powers, nobody seemed to mind too much?? No, I havent read Audacity of Hope, nor am I an ardent Obama supporter, but things HAD to change. We were teetering on the edge of a cliff, and are still grasping at loose gravel to hold on. I just don't see the logic in sticking to policies that brought us to the brink of disaster. Maybe Obama will fail also, that's yet to be seen. Bush and the conservative policies (if you want to call them that!) had proven themselves failures.

    Just because I'm not a W disciple, does NOT mean I'm an Obama fan. There's room in the middle. Believe me, I'm not alone.
    What Bush did or didn't do doesn't excuse the raping of this country that Obama has done in a little over a year and if left (no pun intended) unchecked will continue to do.
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    Ok, so the average family in NW Pa can buy another carton of marlboros per week, and the average AIG exec can buy another G-5 jet. At the cost of $2 trillion over the life of the cuts. Those budget shortfalls are passed onto the states and municipalities, schools etc....everything that has to cut services, close schools, raise local and state taxes or face budget crises that we see across the country....and who suffers the most for it? Middle and lower class citizens.
    A reduction from 15% to 10% is a 33% reduction in taxes which is quite a bit more than a carton of smokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    A reduction from 15% to 10% is a 33% reduction in taxes which is quite a bit more than a carton of smokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    Reagan's popularity varied widely during his presidency. In January 2003, he had an approval rating of 42% and a disapproval rating of 54%.At this time in his Presidency, Reagan's ratings were comparable to Obama's. [http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...ntVersion=true]
    I didn't realize Reagan was pres in 2003
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