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Thread: Early Reaction to Health Bill Adoption

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    *GROAN*

    Dammit Jeff, when will you guys get it through your thick freaking skulls that many of us on here did not like what went on back then and we don't like wtf is going on now? I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT WAS DONE IN THE BUSH YEARS. It does not make anything right. QUIT TRYING TO JUSTIFY EVERYTHING BY 'BUSH DID IT TOO' OR 'I DON'T REMEMBER HEARING YOU COMPLAIN WHEN THE R'S DID IT' OR 'IF R'S WERE DOING IT NOBODY WOULD CARE'. Would you like to start a thread about the Bush tax cuts so that we can actually talk about them on topic and get it over with? Please DO.

    Why is it so damn difficult to understand that we don't necessarily approve of all that Bush/Cheney did during their terms? Why is it so damn difficult to understand that the BS needs to stop NOW. It should have stopped then, but guess what? IT DIDN'T. That is too bad. But that is not a valid reason to continue to do it.

    Now, once again. Do you consider partisan politics to be a consensus? How about answering the question this time around, Trebek.
    Maybe people would stop reminding you that Bush got us in this mess by and large, if others would stop blaming Obama for the mess that was handed to him. I've heard such blatant lies (or blissful ignorance) that Obama has DOUBLED THE NATIONAL DEBT in his first year! That shows a total lack of knowledge of debt, deficit, and the actual numbers.....or it's a willful lie being promulgated to harm a sitting president. Given much of the rhetoric heard at rallies, the latter seems more likely. (not saying this applies to you personally....you're one of the FEW that admits Bush was not the wonderchild he was made out to be!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Maybe people would stop reminding you that Bush got us in this mess by and large, if others would stop blaming Obama for the mess that was handed to him. I've heard such blatant lies (or blissful ignorance) that Obama has DOUBLED THE NATIONAL DEBT in his first year! That shows a total lack of knowledge of debt, deficit, and the actual numbers.....or it's a willful lie being promulgated to harm a sitting president. Given much of the rhetoric heard at rallies, the latter seems more likely. (not saying this applies to you personally....you're one of the FEW that admits Bush was not the wonderchild he was made out to be!)
    Who made him out to be a "wonderchild??"

    No one, but on the other hand, warm tinglys up your leg!!





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    Just to add another dimension to the early reaction to passage, the following table shows differences in the reaction among different groups.



    Much of the discussion here has assumed that younger people would object to the bill because they don't want to pay for coverage since they are young and healthy, and that many of the uninsured were voluntarily uninsured and would object to being forced to obtain insurance. The survey shows 58% of each of these groups favoring the adoption. Obviously, higher income people are also the ones being called on to pay most of the cost and the ones who are likely to benefit least from the program since they generally have employer provided coverage now. Yet they favor the adoption by a 49-46% margin. Those with Medicare oppose the legislation by a slight margin. Obviously, their opposition is not ideological but based on the fear that their own socialized coverage will be weakened by extending similar benefits to others.

    There is an interesting divide by marital status: "By 51% to 41%, married adults call the bill a bad thing. In contrast, unmarried adults call it a good thing by an even wider margin, 60% to 26%."

    BTW, from a statistical perspective, estimates for subgroups are likely to have a much greater statistical "error" than estimates for the populations as a whole.
    Last edited by YardleyLabs; 03-24-2010 at 04:03 PM.

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