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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    Ahhh, DD "gets it".

    Bill Spitzer asks,

    "Any chance we can de-throne Pelosi?"

    A very good chance Bill...but to what end?

    Replace one "owned" politician with just another?

    The game will play out in November as surely as the sun rises, and the only thing that will change is who attacks who on POTUS PLACE.

    WIN... and gird your loins. The attacks will be as relentless and mindless as they are now. They'll just come from another camp.

    At some point will we "get it", Oh maybe...

    ...JD
    Is it lonely??

    I mean being the only ONE that "gets it??"


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    Any chance someone could run her over with a Chevy?????? I hope so......

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    Sharia law??? Sharia Law??? Bill, what makes you think that you and me, and millions others, come under the Rule of Mecca...,
    The sky is not falling on a freedom loving country.
    Obama, (and he dissapoints me as well! For different reasons, however.)
    is not the downfall of the USA. ...
    This country has been on a road to change for decades now. It will never be the way it was, or we remember it was.

    The world is changing around us. You can adapt and modify, or perish.

    I tried to express my own thoughts. JDogger
    If the population demographic projections are right, it won't be long before Muslims are the predominant majority of minority by sheer force of numbers. They will be able to get folks elected, through those numbers and $'s, who if not outright supporters of, will be sympathetic to shariah law just as the mosque imam writes and speaks about now. He speaks of "our shared values, life, liberty and happiness" but only under the mantle of shariah. And look, he's an official spokesman of the State Dept, right now and we're paying for his travels in the Mid East! Where's that valued separation of chuch & state?
    I agree that "the sky is not falling" on the USA , but rather the groundwork and foundations are being slowly but surely eroded away under our feet. Much as the relentless pounding of the waves change the rocks of a breakwater protecting a safe harbor. You don't see it in a day or two, or even a couple of years but come back in 20 years or 50 and be amazed.

    Obama, imo, is not THE downfall of our country, but rather the accelerator of it. His disregard for the Constitution's limits on government, our country's breakwater, combined with a enabling Congress, sets a precedent for others to follow who may be even more radical than him. He didn't even really hide his agenda but, I believe, most folks thought it wouldn't come into play the way it has.

    Most of us don't recognize our country now from the one we grew up in but this is still a relatively slow pace. Combine a charismatic (real) Muslim President, elected in the name of "tolerance & diversity", that is willing to disregard contracts, impose fines/criminal penalties for not participating in government programs and then appoint some avowed fundamentalist "czars" in place of some of the ones like O has put in, who don't believe in a traditional America. and don't have to be approved by Congress. That could be a nightmare that this country might never wake from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post


    We can carp, bleat, warble and moan on PP to our heart's desire, but neither you, I, nor anyone else, will win any converts here on the internet.

    We might seek, and get a slap on the back once and again, but it's mostly just blah, blah, blah.

    At least I didn't just copy and paste someone else's thoughts, or give a link.

    I tried to express my own thoughts. JDogger


    Expressing "your own thoughts" takes all of 5 minutes. What else do you have to enlighten us? More of your own stupidity?

    I don't claim to have the answers like you and your Dimmycrat socialists. So I post some writings of those that say things I believe in...and more importantly, things this batch of sheeple need to hear and read. But like them, you just go along to get along.

    When we had the Soviets breathing down our necks, prior to the Reagan years, it's my guess you would have allowed them on US soil, and would have only objected when their tanks made a left turn onto main street of your hometown, New Mexico. You are lucky a real American that had principles kept this nation safe.

    As I have repeated frequently, Obama isn't the problem, YOU and your ilk are the problem in this nation. As long as you continue to vote your feelings, you would put the anti-Christ in the POTUS chair.

    I no longer pity people like you, just those unsuspecting offspring that haven't a clue where you are leading them. Someday the realization will hit you between the eyes, but by your way of thinking, it will be too late. When you can just poo-poo what's happening in the muslim world, and gloss over their up-front warnings of how they intend to kill you and those you haven't protected, you may decide you shouldn't have been so close-minded to what the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves about what you libs have brought down on this nation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    I no longer pity people like you, just those unsuspecting offspring that haven't a clue where you are leading them. Someday the realization will hit you between the eyes, but by your way of thinking, it will be too late. When you can just poo-poo what's happening in the muslim world, and gloss over their up-front warnings of how they intend to kill you and those you haven't protected, you may decide you shouldn't have been so close-minded to what the founding fathers are rolling over in their graves about what you libs have brought down on this nation.


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    Well said Uncle Bill! IMO, it is a shame.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Is it lonely??

    I mean being the only ONE that "gets it??"


    RK
    No lonelier than it must be in the shallow end of the pool...

    But...wait...wait...I'm wrong again.

    You have lots of company over there.

    They are all shouting, " be afraid, be very afraid, the water might rise above our heads."

    "Then what should we do?" They warble.

    "We must get out of the pool." They cry.

    Then most on the shallow end reach for the ladder, and pull themselves to safety, rather than learning how to swim.

    Bummer. JD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    The Senate is acting in its original intent.

    The Senate has two members per state. Originally the Senators were selected by the state legislatures...until 1913. IOW, the Senate was never supposed to be a popular body but rather was to be deliberative.

    DD....you oughta listen in American history class.

    Eric
    Let me paraphrase what you said. Your opinion is the the Senate is acting in a manner that is consistent with it's historical performance. Unfortunately, the data is not in your favor Eric.

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    never have so many filibusters been threatened as in the first session of the 110th Congress. In just the first year, Republicans filibustered more legislation, and required more cloture votes to break those filibusters, than in any Congress in recent history. By the time this term ends, Congress could well more than double the number of cloture votes of previous Congresses ó including the ones that Republicans controlled and complained of Democratic 'obstruction.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    It MAY happen that way. It MAY take a couple elections to get rid of your socialist oligarchy. I can only hope so for the sake of even your grandchildren.

    If you can't see this administration ruining what was once a great nation, I pity your family and what they have in front of them. If you suddenly "get it", and begin to see how far in the toilet the present administration, with it's toady MSP supporting all that they do, has started flushing down what is important to a freedom loving country, welcome on board. Otherwise you are just a major part of the problem, and your future generations will be under sharia law, and as dependant on government as the unfortunates in New Orleans.

    UB
    Yep. "This Great Nation" was humming on all cylinders when the reigns of power were handed over from the Robber Barron Administration that preceded it. What is important is that a simple majority of American's eventually "get it", and quit allowing themselves to be baited, duped, or otherwise tricked into thinking that either the Democratic or the Republican Political parties currently is supplying ANY constructive solutions to the problems that the nation faces.
    I will agree with you Hew, that the current administration has proven to be incompetent in providing effective leadership and progress in solving the problems they inherited. My question for you is pretty simple. What is the alternative? Can you, or anyone else articulate to me what it is the Republican party is proposing that is different than the failed policies of the previous administration that brought us to this point? I want to know. I'd love to switch back and support them. But for the life of me, I haven't heard of ANY ideas yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    No lonelier than it must be in the shallow end of the pool...

    But...wait...wait...I'm wrong again.

    You have lots of company over there.

    They are all shouting, " be afraid, be very afraid, the water might rise above our heads."

    "Then what should we do?" They warble.

    "We must get out of the pool." They cry.

    Then most on the shallow end reach for the ladder, and pull themselves to safety, rather than learning how to swim.

    Bummer. JD
    Very nice.

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    Don't need to reference your links. Do you know what "deliberative" means?

    The filibusters are a part of the Senate living up to the Founders expectations. I commend to you Federalist #62, "The Senate" which includes:

    "Another advantage accruing from this ingredient in the constitution of the Senate is, the additional impediment it must prove against improper acts of legislation. No law or resolution can now be passed without the concurrence, first, of a majority of the people, and then, of a majority of the States. It must be acknowledged that this complicated check on legislation may in some instances be injurious as well as beneficial; and that the peculiar defense which it involves in favor of the smaller States, would be more rational, if any interests common to them, and distinct from those of the other States, would otherwise be exposed to peculiar danger."

    Eric

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