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    Default It appears France has more balls than our POTUS

    France today overwhelmingly passed a law banning full face traditional muslim female dress. I also learned that Muslim is the second largest and fastest growing religion in France. At least some government has the stones to hold there traditional values intact. If you dont like the rules of our country than leave..... thats why there are so many..........LOL

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    Obongolo has yet to take a stance against muslims. Has anyone asked the question why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman0046 View Post
    Obongolo has yet to take a stance against muslims. Has anyone asked the question why?
    How could any President take a stand against a religion and still swear to uphold our Constitution? Our Constitution does not permit the government to take a stand for or against any religion.

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    Yardley,
    France seemed to position this issue more as a matter of security and fraternity in their nation. Please consider these measures....... if you do, then why would you disagree with what France has done? Remember our pledge of allegiance???? One nation, under God....... remember that? Do you have any feelings of nationality?????? Get real, you fence sitting legal eagle..........

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    If you guys like France so much, and think their government is so much better......what stopping you from going? Allons-y!


    And what does "one nation, under God" have to do with this? That's also what they say in muslim countries...and that's why Sharia law is allowed to dictate women wear the exact garb you so decry.

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    dnf welcome back after embarrassing yourself on the Dock Diving post. Why don't you and Yardley go live in a muslim country as you support them so? Thank God I don't live in Franklin,PA. You two are obviously in the minority on this web site or haven't you realized that?

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    What would be next, government banning Camo being worn in public? Do you really want our government to have this kind of power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gman0046 View Post
    dnf welcome back after embarrassing yourself on the Dock Diving post. Why don't you and Yardley go live in a muslim country as you support them so? Thank God I don't live in Franklin,PA. You two are obviously in the minority on this web site or haven't you realized that?
    I too, thank God everyday that you don't live here. We have a nice, American, family-value type atmsophere here, and don't need any warped, hate-filled bigots. You wouldn't know what to do in a relaxed, tolerant atmosphere anyway.

    And I'm not embarassed in the least for asking a question that several people were kind enough to answer, including Gib. Your lack of a meaningful response is as reliable as the sunrise.
    God Bless PFC Jamie Harkness. The US Army's newest PFC, but still our neighbor's little girl!

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    Quote Originally Posted by troy schwab View Post
    Yardley,
    France seemed to position this issue more as a matter of security and fraternity in their nation. Please consider these measures....... if you do, then why would you disagree with what France has done? Remember our pledge of allegiance???? One nation, under God....... remember that? Do you have any feelings of nationality?????? Get real, you fence sitting legal eagle..........
    I actually remember, and still resent, the addition of "under God" to the pledge in 1954, signed by Eisenhower -- who had been a Jehovah's Witness until he became a Presbyterian a couple of years before. Those words in our pledge, hold no more weight than any other law passed in 1954. They certainly do not define our country, and they were not put there by our forefathers, who would have been horrified at the whole notion of such a universal pledge. Interestingly, when the change was made, several organizations, including the Knights of Columbus, had already made unilateral modifications to the pledge used in all of their functions. Did that constitute an unpatriotic aberration? The pledge also says "One nation,,,indivisible". What does that say of those who, like Governor Perry and our own Franco, talk openly of splitting the country because of the impossibility of living with those of more liberal persuasions?

    France is a country that does not share many beliefs that we consider fundamental. There is no 2nd amendment in France. Neither is there a 4th or 5th amendment. You are not innocent until proven guilty, and there is no guaranteed right of a trial by jury. Both prosecutors and judges are employees of the state and judges are not independent. Until relatively recently, Catholicism was the official religion of the state and laws governing things like birth control and marriage followed Canon law. The same logic used to ban Muslim dress -- that such dress is contrary to the secular values of the state -- could just as easily be used to prevent nuns from wearing their uniforms in public. In schools, a similar law has been used to ban the open wearing of the crucifix. Is that really the kind of country we want?

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    dnf read the Dock Diving thread again. No one supported you including David Gibson. Do I need to list all those who didn't support your BS? I believe Julie told you and your ilk what she thought of you the best.
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