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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Covey View Post
    Did you read the quote that you put up in bold lettering? Where does it say Bush lied. It clearly states that they didn't find the mass stock piles that THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY put out about the wmd's. Its not like Bush was the one coming up with the intelligence on it. That is not the presidents job that is why we have the CIA and others in the intel community. ALL OF WHOM SAID THERE WERE WMD's IN IRAQ...
    After the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War, the United Nations located and destroyed large quantities of Iraqi chemical weapons and related equipment and materials throughout the early 1990s, with varying degrees of Iraqi cooperation and obstruction.[1] In response to diminishing Iraqi cooperation with UNSCOM, the United States called for withdrawal of all UN and IAEA inspectors in 1998, resulting in Operation Desert Fox. The United States and the UK asserted that Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003, and that he was clandestinely procuring and producing more. Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament questions restarted from November 2002 until March 2003,[2] under UN Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Saddam give "immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[3]
    During the lead-up to war in March 2003, Hans Blix had found no stockpiles of WMD and had made significant progress toward resolving open issues of disarmament noting "proactive" but not always the "immediate" Iraqi cooperation as called for by UN Security Council Resolution 1441. He concluded that it would take “but months” to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks.[4] The United States asserted this was a breach of Resolution 1441 but failed to convince the UN Security Council to pass a new resolution authorizing the use of force due to lack of evidence.[5][6][7] Despite being unable to get a new resolution authorizing force and citing section 3 of the Joint Resolution passed by the U.S. Congress,[8] President Bush asserted peaceful measures couldn't disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War,[9] despite multiple dissenting opinions[10] and questions of integrity[11][12][13] about the underlying intelligence.[14] Later U.S.-led inspections agreed that Iraq had earlier abandoned its WMD programs,
    while the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that his administration "misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq".[17]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_an...ss_destruction





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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    He is shouting at you!!!



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    Hot hollaring, If I was it would be in all capital letters. Just stressing certain talking points.

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    Lets not even go to the Pat Tillman case. That was such a disgrace to our government and military. The commanders that botched that have STILL not admitted wrong doing, and are continuing the cover up and lies.

    I read "Where Men Win Glory" and was literally sick to my stomach at several points in that book.

    Talk about an American Hero. Pat Tillman should have statues of himself all over the country.

    He has a very worthwhile charity, organized by his mother and widow. I encourage everyone to take a look, and consider an offering to a worthy cause.

    http://www.pattillmanfoundation.org/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    Hot hollaring, If I was it would be in all capital letters. Just stressing certain talking points.
    I think bold type would be sufficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Covey View Post
    Did you read the quote that you put up in bold lettering? Where does it say Bush lied. It clearly states that they didn't find the mass stock piles that THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY put out about the wmd's. Its not like Bush was the one coming up with the intelligence on it. That is not the presidents job that is why we have the CIA and others in the intel community. ALL OF WHOM SAID THERE WERE WMD's IN IRAQ...
    not only that, most all democrats including kerry and the clintons were all in agreement until it became politically feasible to go against bush on the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    David, I guess you think cover ups are not against the law either? Just because Congress did not persue any impeachable offenses against Bush 43 doesn't mean he did not commit any impeachable offenses.



    There are many more examples of Bush 43 cover-ups also. Here is a link.
    http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-w...da-says/26514/
    there are just as many if not more cover ups of the clintons. here's one:

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...cover-scandals


    oh, and here's one for obama:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...ate-obama.html

    how long do you want to play this game?

    clinton lied under oath and was caught, but acquitted in due legal process just like oj. point clinton. but it was clearly justifiable to bring the charges, and thats been the whole topic since tardley made his comment about holding a grudge forever because impeachment proceedings were brought up. they were not trumped up charges, he lied under oath, bush did no such thing so any comparisons you try to make about bush committing impeachable offenses are pointless.

    forget the wmd, your assertions of him lying about that are baseless. no more than he planned 9/11 himself - though i am quite certain you believe that too.

    i am buying more stock in Alcoa, you keep the demand high!

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    Quote Originally Posted by david gibson View Post
    there are just as many if not more cover ups of the clintons. here's one:

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...cover-scandals


    oh, and here's one for obama:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...ate-obama.html

    how long do you want to play this game?

    clinton lied under oath and was caught, but acquitted in due legal process just like oj. point clinton. but it was clearly justifiable to bring the charges, and thats been the whole topic since tardley made his comment about holding a grudge forever because impeachment proceedings were brought up. they were not trumped up charges, he lied under oath, bush did no such thing so any comparisons you try to make about bush committing impeachable offenses are pointless.

    forget the wmd, your assertions of him lying about that are baseless. no more than he planned 9/11 himself - though i am quite certain you believe that too.

    i am buying more stock in Alcoa, you keep the demand high!
    I guess your finger hit the wrong button again the "t" is right next to the y button.

    David, you will never convince me that Bush really believed there were WMD in Iraq for the reason we went to war against Iraq to feed his own ego any more than you will convince me that Bush was not lying.

    Bush 43 made General Colin Powell look like a fool, Why else would General Powell resign?
    Last edited by Roger Perry; 09-27-2010 at 01:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    I guess your finger hit the wrong button again the "t" is right next to the y button.

    David, you will never convince me that Bush really believed there were WMD in Iraq for the reason we went to war against Iraq to feed his own ego any more than you will convince me that Bush was not lying.

    Bush 43 made General Colin Powell look like a fool, Why else would General Powell resign?

    We went to Iraq so that the Bushs could settle a grudge against Hussain.

    During a campaign speech in September 2002, Bush cited a number of reasons -- in addition to alleged terrorist links and weapons of mass destruction (WMD) about why Saddam was so dangerous to the U.S., noting, in particular that, ''After all, this is the guy who tired to kill my dad.''
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    I guess your finger hit the wrong button again the "t" is right next to the y button.

    David, you will never convince me that Bush really believed there were WMD in Iraq for the reason we went to war against Iraq to feed his own ego any more than you will convince me that Bush was not lying.

    Bush 43 made General Colin Powell look like a fool, Why else would General Powell resign?
    i know i'll never convince you, you have a one track mind and one set of facts that you continuously spew with no solid factual evidence to ever back it up. the best you can do is make the font 2 times larger and bold it. i have to admit, you are the best at that!

    so tell me, was 9/11 bush's idea, or was he just doing what cheney told him to do??

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    Quote Originally Posted by david gibson View Post
    i know i'll never convince you, you have a one track mind and one set of facts that you continuously spew with no solid factual evidence to ever back it up. the best you can do is make the font 2 times larger and bold it. i have to admit, you are the best at that!

    so tell me, was 9/11 bush's idea, or was he just doing what cheney told him to do??
    No, I do not believe 9/11 was Bush's idea. I do belive on August 6th, 2001 he was briefed by the CIA about a possibility of an impending attack and never followed through with the information.

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