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    Quote Originally Posted by duckheads View Post
    Instead of responding to a response, how about a response to the original post about the shovel ready projects that were ready to go across the counrty. anyone, anyone, independants, Buehler?
    We've had two federal-stimulus funded programs in our town. An elementery school upgrade, and a bridge replaced. Didn't say how many were employed, but it looked to be about 50 at each site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    We've had two federal-stimulus funded programs in our town. An elementery school upgrade, and a bridge replaced. Didn't say how many were employed, but it looked to be about 50 at each site.
    I'd like to read about those if possible. Can you name the bridge and school? Thanks. Being in construction myself, I know how those types of jobs are budgeted, bid and built. Seems like a stretch to think that either of these projects were funded with stimulus money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Bora View Post
    “Met the new boss, same as the old boss”[/FONT]



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hew View Post
    I'd like to read about those if possible. Can you name the bridge and school? Thanks. Being in construction myself, I know how those types of jobs are budgeted, bid and built. Seems like a stretch to think that either of these projects were funded with stimulus money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Deja Vu, all over again.......

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    Stimulus contracts, grants and loans in Venango County, Pa. Data last updated on June 2010.
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    Note: For some programs where states do to note report where money will be distributed across the state, we do not have the allocation for individual counties. Those programs include: Medicaid, unemployment benefits and food stamps. Those amounts are included in the totals for where the state agency receiving that money is located.

    Amount refers to both the amount of stimulus funding going toward the project and the face value of the loan.

    Recipient Amount Type Description Federal Dept./Agency Date
    Pleasantville of Borough Inc $4,105,076 Grant Capitalization Grants for Clean Water State Revolving Funds This grant award provides funding under the American Recovery Reinvestment Act of 2009 to the State of Pennsylvania through the Pennsylvania Infrastructure Investment Authority ('PENNVEST ) to capitalize its revolving loan fund for the finan... Show more
    This spending item is part of a $176,912,530 allocation. See details

    Environmental Protection Agency 7/09/2009
    TRANSPORTATION, PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF $2,992,748 Grant Highway Planning and Construction Highway Infrastructure Investment Grant: Available for Use in Any Area (flexible) Transportation Department / Federal Highway Administration 6/17/2009
    SHAW INDUSTRIES INC. $1,800,000 Loan Business and Industry Loans - ARRA Agriculture Department / Rural Business Cooperative Service 11/17/2009
    OIL CITY AREA SCHOOL DISTRICT $1,621,930 Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund (SFSF) - Education State Grants, Recovery Act Education Fund G�( for the support of public elementary, secondary, and postsecondary education and, as, applicable, early childhood education programs and services.
    This spending item is part of a $1,044,394,619 allocation. See details

    Education Department / Office of Elementary and Secondary Education 10/28/2009
    FRANKLIN AREA SCHOOL DISTRICT INC $1,395,676 Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund (SFSF) - Education State Grants, Recovery Act Education Fund G�( for the support of public elementary, secondary, and postsecondary education and, as, applicable, early childhood education programs and services.
    This spending item is part of a $1,044,394,619 allocation. See details

    Education Department / Office of Elementary and Secondary Education 10/28/2009
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    Projects

    Stimulus contracts, grants and loans in Venango County, Pa. Data last updated on June 2010.
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    Note: For some programs where states do to note report where money will be distributed across the state, we do not have the allocation for individual counties. Those programs include: Medicaid, unemployment benefits and food stamps. Those amounts are included in the totals for where the state agency receiving that money is located.

    Amount refers to both the amount of stimulus funding going toward the project and the face value of the loan.

    Recipient Amount Type Description Federal Dept./Agency Date
    Pleasantville of Borough Inc $4,105,076 Grant Capitalization Grants for Clean Water State Revolving Funds This grant award provides funding under the American Recovery Reinvestment Act of 2009 to the State of Pennsylvania through the Pennsylvania Infrastructure Investment Authority ('PENNVEST ) to capitalize its revolving loan fund for the finan... Show more
    This spending item is part of a $176,912,530 allocation. See details

    Environmental Protection Agency 7/09/2009
    TRANSPORTATION, PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF $2,992,748 Grant Highway Planning and Construction Highway Infrastructure Investment Grant: Available for Use in Any Area (flexible) Transportation Department / Federal Highway Administration 6/17/2009
    SHAW INDUSTRIES INC. $1,800,000 Loan Business and Industry Loans - ARRA Agriculture Department / Rural Business Cooperative Service 11/17/2009
    OIL CITY AREA SCHOOL DISTRICT $1,621,930 Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund (SFSF) - Education State Grants, Recovery Act Education Fund G�( for the support of public elementary, secondary, and postsecondary education and, as, applicable, early childhood education programs and services.
    This spending item is part of a $1,044,394,619 allocation. See details

    Education Department / Office of Elementary and Secondary Education 10/28/2009
    FRANKLIN AREA SCHOOL DISTRICT INC $1,395,676 Grant State Fiscal Stabilization Fund (SFSF) - Education State Grants, Recovery Act Education Fund G�( for the support of public elementary, secondary, and postsecondary education and, as, applicable, early childhood education programs and services.
    This spending item is part of a $1,044,394,619 allocation. See details

    Education Department / Office of Elementary and Secondary Education 10/28/2009


    Yes, RK, it is deja vu all over again. When faced with facts that don't agree with your agenda, you make character attacks and totally off-subject comments, rather than face the facts. I don't expect anything more from you.

    Just this once, try to respond the to subject matter. Please. Then you can go back to being your regular self.
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    dnf its great to see those funds appropriated but......you have only listed totals, you have not told us exactly how many jobs were created per dollar.

    dont you think that is a real factor to consider?
    $25 million for 65 jobs is a common theme with this stimulus bill - and that just dont cut it with me.

    and now even Obama admits it - so really, how can you defend what HE already admits is defeat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david gibson View Post
    dnf its great to see those funds appropriated but......you have only listed totals, you have not told us exactly how many jobs were created per dollar.

    dont you think that is a real factor to consider?
    $25 million for 65 jobs is a common theme with this stimulus bill - and that just dont cut it with me.

    and now even Obama admits it - so really, how can you defend what HE already admits is defeat?
    that wasn't the question I was answering. Sounds like a nice research project for a guy who works at home on his computer. I have to travel to a satellite clinic tomorrow in Clarion, so knock yourself out. I can't wait to see the results.

    Hew asked a legit question, and got an answer. RK just nipped at the heels with a meaningless jab, and will probably sulk away when debunked, as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by david gibson View Post
    dnf its great to see those funds appropriated but......you have only listed totals, you have not told us exactly how many jobs were created per dollar.

    dont you think that is a real factor to consider?
    $25 million for 65 jobs is a common theme with this stimulus bill - and that just dont cut it with me.

    and now even Obama admits it - so really, how can you defend what HE already admits is defeat?
    It's actually an almost impossible number to estimate accurately. If a project employs 50 people, spending $2.5 million on salaries and another $22.5 million on supplies and material, how do you count the jobs created by the $22.5 million? All the estimates that talk about the high cost of jobs are treating those expenditures as producing no jobs. That is clearly absurd unless all the materials are imported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    did you hear what you said?

    The unions you mention represent truck drivers, steel workers, coal miners....You don't think these people have held shovels in their hands? Have YOU held a shovel?
    Have no problem with the rank and file, not their fault they have been coerced into giving their dues to make a living. Stimlas money went to the THUGS at the top that drive Caddy's while the worker bees labor. Isn't it funny how the worker bees pensions are in the shitter while the THUGS pensions are fully funded?????? Very similar to the USSR isn't it BUZZ/DIDNOTFINISH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R Little View Post
    Have no problem with the rank and file, not their fault they have been coerced into giving their dues to make a living. Stimlas money went to the THUGS at the top that drive Caddy's while the worker bees labor. Isn't it funny how the worker bees pensions are in the shitter while the THUGS pensions are fully funded?????? Very similar to the USSR isn't it BUZZ/DIDNOTFINISH.

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    By the thugs at the top, are you referring to the shareholders of the officers of the companies?

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