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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    In other words, you think that Obama will take a page from the republican playbook.
    Like the Reps have been able to stop anything in the last 6 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    Like the Reps have been able to stop anything in the last 6 years.
    Yes, when they had the house, senate, the whitehouse, and the supreme court, they couldn't stop a thing.
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    lefties like to use the phrase "party of no" as is it has some real meaning when describing the republican party. Is there an expectation that democrats will be the party of yes when presented with the opportunity to say yes to legislation authored by republicans?

    both parties are the party of loyalty to party politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    lefties like to use the phrase "party of no" as is it has some real meaning when describing the republican party. Is there an expectation that democrats will be the party of yes when presented with the opportunity to say yes to legislation authored by republicans?

    both parties are the party of loyalty to party politics.
    Not if that legislation is an effort to repeal what has already passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    Not if that legislation is an effort to repeal what has already passed.
    I don't know about that. None of them are claiming responsibility for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    Not if that legislation is an effort to repeal what has already passed.
    the real party of no...
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    [QUOTE=subroc;692456]Then you haven't been paying attention.

    The GOP will win the house handily, maybe even a 25 seat margin.

    The GOP will have "at least" 49 seats in the senate and may even end up with the 51 seats to control.

    As far as "change" goes, I expect it will happen at the usual snail's pace of everything in DC. However, no extremist liberal agenda will be seen for miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie R. View Post
    I think a better example of never stopping campaigning is your boy in the White House. He doesn't know how to do anything except campaign; and by that I mean someone winds him up, dresses him and plants him in front of teleprompters so he can spew a bunch of feel-good rah rah stuff someone else wrote. Take him off script and he can't even speak effectively; and he certainly doesn't know how to govern.
    Why do I not have issue with this? Oh, because it's true. Although, for a year and a half, the Dem's sort of kind of tried to get something done. The House was diligent, the President was asleep, and the Senate was .... well you can fill in the blanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    In other words, you think that Obama will take a page from the republican playbook.
    Last time I checked, the Constitution doesn't grant veto power to Congress. That "playbook" doesn't apply to the Executive Branch.
    Also, for the last 2 years, the "D's" have outnumbered the "R's" in both houses. The "R's" had no power to block anything, especially due to use of reconciliation. If the progressive "D's" couldn't get the moderate "D's" to go along with their radical agenda, is that the "R's" fault? Or is it the fault(s) of the agenda itself? The only reason the "D's" wanted "R's" to sign on is so they could claim some kind of "bipartisanship" and wouldn't have to take the upcoming ass-whuppin all by themselves.

    If the "D's" are so happy/proud of what has been accomplished, why are so many of them running on anti-Obama/Pelosi, etc campaigns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by depittydawg View Post
    for a year and a half, the Dem's sort of kind of tried to get "something done". (quotation marks mine BW)
    I think you're seeing that the People would rather have Congress do NOTHING that the wrong thing.
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