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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Covey View Post
    Why do democrats spew this crap when they know that no one is suggesting completely getting rid of Social Security without addressing people that have already paid. When Bush said privatize social security he was talking about 2%. What i think they should do is phase out social security. everyone who has already paid in gets what they paid while no new people would be added. They can invest how they see fit and if they don't to bad for them. That money will go back into the economy via the buying of goods and services since they didn't invest.
    Unless you happen to have $4 trillion in cash, there is no way to pay back current participants. The Bush plan contained two elements. One was to borrow the "gap" between benefits owed and the funds available from current tax payments (with repayment over 30 years) while diverting a portion of current tax receipts to user controlled investment accounts. The other part was a reduction in benefits. It was a smoke and mirrors plan that basically sought to conceal the fact that the accumulated debt owed to the trust by the US government was being written down and paid for with benefit cuts. Social security as it stands now is virtually self financing. It has generated trillions in surpluses over the last 25 years, and continues to generate surpluses today. What is not self financing is the US government, and it hasn't been since Clinton was in office (even then it was only self financing briefly). The Bush plan did nothing at all to address that problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    Unless you happen to have $4 trillion in cash, there is no way to pay back current participants. The Bush plan contained two elements. One was to borrow the "gap" between benefits owed and the funds available from current tax payments (with repayment over 30 years) while diverting a portion of current tax receipts to user controlled investment accounts. The other part was a reduction in benefits. It was a smoke and mirrors plan that basically sought to conceal the fact that the accumulated debt owed to the trust by the US government was being written down and paid for with benefit cuts. Social security as it stands now is virtually self financing. It has generated trillions in surpluses over the last 25 years, and continues to generate surpluses today. What is not self financing is the US government, and it hasn't been since Clinton was in office (even then it was only self financing briefly). The Bush plan did nothing at all to address that problem.
    And what has the Obama plan done to address the problem??


    Just askin.......


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