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    Goose, you said the Obongolo Library? Do you think his countrymen in Kenya can read?

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    Yardley:
    I would be surprised if the incremental cost of the trip is as large as $20 million, which, by the way, was about the cost, adjusted for inflation, of the last partners' meeting I attended at Ernst & Young where the 4,000 partners booked almost all of Epcot Center for four days.
    Jeff, using your figures ... $20 million/4,000 people/4 days = $1,250 per day per
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    I have to believe that the cost per person for a Presidential jaunt like this is going to be more than $1250/day/person. The cost of flying the POTUS just about anywhere is a whole lot more.

    I might question $200 million/day ... but it's certainly more than the $20 million. $200 million for the entire trip would work out to $16,666 for 3000 people for 4 days. If the trip is 5 days the cost/day is down to $13,333/day. That doesn't seem like it could be out of the realm of possibility.

    That is a feasible number considering the advance personnel who will be in the field for more than the length of a 4-day trip. I believe they also fly the POTUS limo to the locations in a separate aircraft (documentary on TV is the source for that). I believe they also put two Air Force 1 planes in the air, so that one is a "decoy". I don't think we can assume that all other aircraft that might be involved would be in the air if the trip were not occurring. We might still be paying wages, but those planes might very likely be sitting on the ground if they did not have a mission to guard the POTUS.

    I don't dispute that India is an important ally in Asia, worthy of a visit from the POTUS. I might dispute that he has to take 2999 other people along with him on the taxpayer's dime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    It doesn't matter what he does, you guys will be outraged at every move he makes and every word he utters. Unbelievable. You guys believe that it is possible to spend over a half billion dollars on a 3 day trip. At 3000 people that would come to $67k/person/day. You guys will believe anything.
    I've said repeatedly, it's about the cost associated with the trip not the person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    I've said repeatedly, it's about the cost associated with the trip not the person.
    But then you also said......

    M&K's Retrievers;699422]A couple of comments in bold above. Jeff, $4.5 Million a day would be too much to send this clown anywhere but home for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depittydawg View Post
    But then you also said......

    M&K's Retrievers;699422]A couple of comments in bold above. Jeff, $4.5 Million a day would be too much to send this clown anywhere but home for good.
    And your point is? The point of the thread is the cost and usefulness of the trip. My comment above to Jeff was an opinion of BHO's worthlessness regardless the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    And your point is? The point of the thread is the cost and usefulness of the trip. My comment above to Jeff was an opinion of BHO's worthlessness regardless the subject.
    I think his point is that in the context of that statement, it appears that it is largely about the person.

    But I shouldn't speak for him. I have a hard time picking up on stuff sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    I think his point is that in the context of that statement, it appears that it is largely about the person.

    But I shouldn't speak for him. I have a hard time picking up on stuff sometimes.
    Well said. The context is that without the contempt for the MAN in the White House, the 200 million dollar figure, as Yardley pointed out, would be challenged and quickly disregarded as impossible. The motivating force of this thread seems to be about the Man, not the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post

    I don't care if the trip was free, why is he wasting the POTUS time going there?
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    What? No smiley face or is that a new medical term? I don't care what it cost, it is a blatant waste of tax payer funds and POTUS time.
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    I have no problem with the POTUS (any POTUS) traveling in style but when I'm strapped for cash, I don't go. Maybe he should stay at home as well and set a good example. Remember he told people to stay away from Vegas.
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    I've said repeatedly, it's about the cost associated with the trip not the person.
    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    And your point is? The point of the thread is the cost and usefulness of the trip. My comment above to Jeff was an opinion of BHO's worthlessness regardless the subject.
    I guess youse guys can't read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    I guess youse guys can't read.
    Mike,

    The problem is that you contradict yourself. On one had you say it is about the cost of the trip. On the other you say it is about BHO's worthlessness regardless of the subject. I suspect that the latter explains your willingness to accept and pass on absurd cost quotes (coming from an anonymous provincial official in India) without any assessment of the reasonableness of the information involved. You really don't care about the facts, only about having another stick to beat the drum.

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