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Thread: Should Outside Campaign Funding be banned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    The D's have their panties in a wad because of the SCOTUS ruling which leveled the playing field . I had this discussion last night with a person who hangs in a different crowd. My question to him was "Do you want union money also out of the race?", naturally not . I do.

    The D's have a message the public cannot afford, they've had the advantage in media support & unlimited take care of me groups. Hopefully the newly elected can return our country to the principles upon which it was founded .
    You mean like slavery, indentured servitude, voting rights only for male land-owners, etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    The D's have their panties in a wad because of the SCOTUS ruling which leveled the playing field . I had this discussion last night with a person who hangs in a different crowd. My question to him was "Do you want union money also out of the race?", naturally not .

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    But do you really think that international corporations that have already moved jobs overseas will support issues that are favorable to YOU, or the working class Americans? ie, the majority of us?
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    Total spending for our congressional race was about $8 million or about $37/vote cast. Total spending was probably twice that. As one who watches almost no commercal tv, I was at least spared the commercials. However, I received more than 200 telephone calls in the lead up to the election and, the day before the election more than 50 calls. I was having a technical telemeeting at one point and ended up having to disconnect the phones in that part of my house because the noise was so disruptive. Of course, that didn't help the four times people came to my door to be sure I would get out to vote. I was never so happy to see an election end. However, I would not favor restricting outside contributions. Federal elections results affect the whole country. I do oppose unrestricted, anonymous donations by corporations and organizations. I believe that threatens the foundations of democracy. I also do not believe that there is any equivalency between a corporation and a person despite the radical decision by the Supreme Court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    I agree with Teddy Roosevelt on the business spending on elections part. This comes from his 1905 State of the Union Speech.



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    Teddy Roosevelt was a Great American President. Wonder what the Republican party would do with him today...

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    If that person is elected to represent me, I want the to represent me-- not someone with deep pockets from outside the district. You can change the representatives --Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, ad nauseum. The kind of money from the outside funding these campaigns is going to shout louder than the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeus3925 View Post
    This year's election has seen some incredible amounts of spending by sources outside the candidate's district. In one race in Minnesota, $15 million was spent to win a job that pays $153,000. Who is going to listen to the constituents when the return favors are called in?

    Question: Should campaign funds be restricted to citizens, locals of unions, and businesses that actually headquartered in that district?
    I believe the only answer is complete public funding for elections. The amount of money it would cost wouldn't even register on the Spending Meter. I also think the Public airways (that would be every station anywhere) should be required to provide access at no cost to candidates seeking office.

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    If that person is elected to represent me, I want the to represent me-- not someone with deep pockets from outside the district. You can change the representatives --Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, ad nauseum to no avail. The kind of money from the outside funding these campaigns is going to shout louder than the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    You mean like slavery, indentured servitude, voting rights only for male land-owners, etc?
    I was talking principles not "common practices", but possibly having to be a property owner to vote on those issues that cost money might not be a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    But do you really think that international corporations that have already moved jobs overseas will support issues that are favorable to YOU, or the working class Americans? ie, the majority of us?
    The issue here in WA is just moving jobs to other states, but here's my take on overseas jobs & i've had to deal with product coming from suppliers that was not up to snuff. While Boeing management was stupid to sub so much work & I think they now recognize that, the IAM has not been real smart in their striking philosophy, so some work will be offloaded to SC to handle those situations. To me, that's good management, if the worker is not dependable go somewhere where they appreciate the job. Again the playing field is leveled.

    1) If the quality & the output is there & the unit cost is lower why not make the move. Much of our labor has priced themselves out of the market but now would like legalized extortion .
    2) People in other country's need jobs too, it is not just alright for us to sell overseas without also doing some buying. A contented person is much less likely to be a suicide bomber .
    3) If overseas products are so bad, why do American consumers not insist that "made in America" is the only acceptable label. I have always laughed at how Butte, MT, a staunch Union town can somehow manage to keep the local Wally World parking lot packed. Not so staunch when it is a pocketbook issue .

    & BTW, We are Stockholders in many of these companies you talk about. Their corporate practices are closely monitored by the stockholders, unlike most unions .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    but possibly having to be a property owner to vote on those issues that cost money might not be a bad idea. ???
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    Me gold, me gold...sayeth the pirate captain. Marvin, are you one of those SCA guys that dress up and go to renaissance fairs on the weekend. Do you have an anachonistic alter-ego? "Marvin-the-seer", or "Marvin the Terrible", or mavbe "Marvin the Black" or some such?
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    While I am certain none of you progressives will recognize the hypocrisy of your current positions as opposed to two years ago when Acorn, Soros, Oprah, on & on & on & .........don't recall one of you complaining then.

    But you're correct.....Tuesdays bloodletting was due to; Bush, Rove, Cheney, Big Oil, Wall Street, Major Corporations, the sea level, melting ice caps and outside money.....simply can't be that the American people disapprove of 'socialist' ideologies, mind boggling deficit spending or arrogance that out paces any previous US administration. Keep telling yourselves that and you'll be scratching your collective heads again in 2012 wondering how a bunch of rubes once more handed you your collective arses.
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