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    Quote Originally Posted by dback View Post
    While I am certain none of you progressives will recognize the hypocrisy of your current positions as opposed to two years ago when Acorn, Soros, Oprah, on & on & on & .........don't recall one of you complaining then.

    But you're correct.....Tuesdays bloodletting was due to; Bush, Rove, Cheney, Big Oil, Wall Street, Major Corporations, the sea level, melting ice caps and outside money.....simply can't be that the American people disapprove of 'socialist' ideologies, mind boggling deficit spending or arrogance that out paces any previous US administration. Keep telling yourselves that and you'll be scratching your collective heads again in 2012 wondering how a bunch of rubes once more handed you your collective arses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
    Indeed.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dback View Post
    While I am certain none of you progressives will recognize the hypocrisy of your current positions as opposed to two years ago when Acorn, Soros, Oprah, on & on & on & .........don't recall one of you complaining then.

    But you're correct.....Tuesdays bloodletting was due to; Bush, Rove, Cheney, Big Oil, Wall Street, Major Corporations, the sea level, melting ice caps and outside money.....simply can't be that the American people disapprove of 'socialist' ideologies, mind boggling deficit spending or arrogance that out paces any previous US administration. Keep telling yourselves that and you'll be scratching your collective heads again in 2012 wondering how a bunch of rubes once more handed you your collective arses.
    absolutely correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dback View Post
    Keep telling yourselves that and you'll be scratching your collective heads again in 2012 wondering how a bunch of rubes once more handed you your collective arses.
    Just like republicans did for the past 4 years? I remember hearing talk of "the demise of the republican party", and look how it turned in a bad economy. Don't you see what's happening? Never mind. I already know the answer.

    Marvin:
    1) If the quality & the output is there & the unit cost is lower why not make the move. Much of our labor has priced themselves out of the market but now would like legalized extortion

    I understand you point, but in saying so, we must be prepared to see the standard of living for the middle class in America decline substantially, to achieve some parity with other countries. I don't think many of us are ready for that. The world is getting flatter, and those who used to ride high, aren't going to like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post

    I understand you point, but in saying so, we must be prepared to see the standard of living for the middle class in America decline substantially, to achieve some parity with other countries. I don't think many of us are ready for that. The world is getting flatter, and those who used to ride high, aren't going to like it.

    Many on the right seem to think it will only impact those overpaid state & municipal workers, and those damn commie unionists. When recently confronted by a voter to comment on the success of the effort to save the american auto industry, a republican candidate basically brushed it off as a bad thing because after all, those were union jobs that were saved and that the country would be better off if they were gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Don't you see what's happening? Never mind. I already know the answer.
    So that was you in the Chapel on Wednesday renting your scrubs.

    I share Sarges concerns and understand perfectly. Were this a recent development there would have been no hapless attempt to address the issue in 2002 (McCain/Feingold). Yardley can surely subject us to countless additional pages of Congressional tommyrot proclaiming campaign spending controls each with it's own political bent designed to aid its' author. I don't have the answers....hence no vote on my part....but....I'd bet a dollar to a donut that two old horseback ranchers could come up with an ironclad single page document, spit in their respective gloved hands and shake on it over a barbed wire fence that would warrant greater merit then anything generated by any congressman thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Just like republicans did for the past 4 years? I remember hearing talk of "the demise of the republican party", and look how it turned in a bad economy. Don't you see what's happening? Never mind. I already know the answer.
    Actually Doc, I don't think you do know the answer.

    Marvin:
    1) If the quality & the output is there & the unit cost is lower why not make the move. Much of our labor has priced themselves out of the market but now would like legalized extortion

    I understand you point, but in saying so, we must be prepared to see the standard of living for the middle class in America decline substantially, to achieve some parity with other countries. I don't think many of us are ready for that. The world is getting flatter, and those who used to ride high, aren't going to like it.
    That's what people thought when Henry started paying his workers enough to buy the cars the workers were building. If your opinion is the world will get flatter if people in other countries enjoy a somewhat higher standard of living, I disagree. Were those people making more money we would have a larger market for our products, is that real hard to understand?

    My son is starting a business. He makes premium dairy products: cow, goat & a blend of both in cheese + other dairy products. Not only do you have to make the product & deal with the regulators, but you have to develop a market. In order to help him I run a couple of stands in local Farmers Markets. One in a lower income area & another in a higher income area. My average sale in the higher income area is about 60% greater & I make more sales. There was such a disparity in sales that we started looking at wage demographics & will concentrate our limited work force (which is anyone in the family who will put in time for product) in the higher wage areas next year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Many on the right seem to think it will only impact those overpaid state & municipal workers, and those damn commie unionists. When recently confronted by a voter to comment on the success of the effort to save the american auto industry, a republican candidate basically brushed it off as a bad thing because after all, those were union jobs that were saved and that the country would be better off if they were gone.
    How do you know what people to the right of yourself (which would be a very large segment of the populace) think? Like children not being able to choose their parents, there is no litmus test for registering as an R to run a campaign, so we don't really know if he was a real R or not. You lefty's idea of what makes an acceptable R is fairly far out .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    Actually Doc, I don't think you do know the answer.



    That's what people thought when Henry started paying his workers enough to buy the cars the workers were building. If your opinion is the world will get flatter if people in other countries enjoy a somewhat higher standard of living, I disagree. Were those people making more money we would have a larger market for our products, is that real hard to understand?
    Invoking Henry Ford?? Where do you think Henry Ford wold fall in today's political spectrum???

    And BTW, what was Toyota and Honda's market share in the early 20th century? Do you really think that's a valid comparison?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeus3925 View Post
    This year's election has seen some incredible amounts of spending by sources outside the candidate's district. In one race in Minnesota, $15 million was spent to win a job that pays $153,000. Who is going to listen to the constituents when the return favors are called in?

    Question: Should campaign funds be restricted to citizens, locals of unions, and businesses that actually headquartered in that district?

    Don't tell me that Michelle wouldn't have won without my measley $200?
    Since John Thune ran unapposed, he didn't need my contribution, and I'd already sent in as much as I could for Kristi Noem. So who better to help out than Mrs. Bachman?

    As for 'return favors'...her voting record will suffice just fine...unless you believe I could hold out for something more exotic?

    My main concern now is if NBC will ban my viewing their programming because I didn't get their permission to contribute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    Don't tell me that Michelle wouldn't have won without my measley $200?
    Since John Thune ran unapposed, he didn't need my contribution, and I'd already sent in as much as I could for Kristi Noem. So who better to help out than Mrs. Bachman?

    As for 'return favors'...her voting record will suffice just fine...unless you believe I could hold out for something more exotic?

    My main concern now is if NBC will ban my viewing their programming because I didn't get their permission to contribute.

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    Bill I am not worried about your $200 dollars. But why not help those that represent you, instead of meddling in someone else's district? Michele Bachmann might agree with your politics, but it isn't her job to represent you. She represents the 6th district of Minnesota. You live in South Dakota.

    PS. I bet you never listened to NBC, unless you had a barf bag handy.
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