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    Default Olberman suspended by MSNBC

    bye bye KO...suspended for making political donations to Democrat campaigns

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    "Anyone working for NBC News who takes part in civic or other outside activities may find that these activities jeopardize his or her standing as an impartial journalist because they may create the appearance of a conflict of interest,” it reads. “Such activities may include participation in or contributions to political campaigns or groups that espouse controversial positions. You should report any such potential conflicts in advance to, and obtain prior approval of, the president of NBC News or his designee."
    Did they really just use those two words to describe Olbermann (or any MSNBC host)?

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    Hmm. Democrats upholding an ethics policy. Olberman get canned for giving a legal 2400 to his candidate. Fox News company donates a million and is still on the air as a "news" station? I see the double standard. Hypocrisy. Typical.
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    Fox News owner donating money is a bit different than an employee. And on top of that Fox News wasn't complaining about it so how is it hypocrasy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Covey View Post
    Fox News owner donating money is a bit different than an employee. And on top of that Fox News wasn't complaining about it so how is it hypocrasy?
    A supposedly neutral entity supporting a political cause financially.

    I really don't see how an employer can limit what an individual privately gives, within the confines of the law. Are they allowed to dictate WHO he VOTES for in private as well?

    I suspect he will move on and succeed in another venue, but if he chooses to fight this legally, I don't see how an employer would have a leg to stand on, regulating private donations. If he went on-air and announced this, (maybe he did? I don't watch him) then I see their beef. Otherwise, I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Covey View Post
    Fox News owner donating money is a bit different than an employee. And on top of that Fox News wasn't complaining about it so how is it hypocrasy?
    I agree it's different. It's WORSE. Stock holders complained at a shareholder's meeting, and Merdoch basically told them to go pound sand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    A supposedly neutral entity supporting a political cause financially.

    I really don't see how an employer can limit what an individual privately gives, within the confines of the law. Are they allowed to dictate WHO he VOTES for in private as well?

    I suspect he will move on and succeed in another venue, but if he chooses to fight this legally, I don't see how an employer would have a leg to stand on, regulating private donations. If he went on-air and announced this, (maybe he did? I don't watch him) then I see their beef. Otherwise, I don't.
    Olbermann's problem is that he signed a contract. The contract stated that he could make political contributions, but he had to notify management and get their approval beforehand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Covey View Post
    Fox News owner donating money is a bit different than an employee. And on top of that Fox News wasn't complaining about it so how is it hypocrasy?
    I agree. Once you get past the "Fair and Balanced" slogan, Fox makes no pretense of objectivity.

    Glenn Beck gave $10,000 to the Chamber of Commerce as a funnel to republican candidates. If no Fox policy is violated, no problem. If Olbermann violated MSNBC's policy, there is no reason not to can him. I suspect his fate might have been different if his ratings were higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
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    I suspect he will move on and succeed in another venue, but if he chooses to fight this legally, I don't see how an employer would have a leg to stand on, regulating private donations. If he went on-air and announced this, (maybe he did? I don't watch him) then I see their beef. Otherwise, I don't.
    People in executive positions routinely have employment contracts that govern large aspects of their lives. This goes from the stupid (people at Pepsi were terminated if seen drinking Coke) to the understandable but highly intrusive.

    As a partner in an accounting firm I was prohibited from owning any shares in any client company (representing about 30% of all companies in the world) as were all members of my immediate family. In addition, I could not have credit relationships with any customer. Beyond this, you could not be married to a senior executive at a client company or have any other strong personal relationships (e.g. dating) with senior client staff. All of this was done to preserve independence. One partner was terminated for participating in an NCAA betting pool organized by executives at a client company and the firm was cited by the SEC for that violation of independence restrictions.

    Politically, we were free to do as we wished with one exception. We were required to contribute a certain percentage of our incomes (think thousands, not hundreds. per year) to the company PAC where the money was used routinely to support candidates that supported the firm and to support candidates supported by our clients. The latter happened almost every election cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    I agree. Once you get past the "Fair and Balanced" slogan, Fox makes no pretense of objectivity.

    Glenn Beck gave $10,000 to the Chamber of Commerce as a funnel to republican candidates. If no Fox policy is violated, no problem. If Olbermann violated MSNBC's policy, there is no reason not to can him. I suspect his fate might have been different if his ratings were higher.
    Fox News clearly states which programs are for news and which are entertainment. If you can provide examples of them not being objective during their news programs then fine I'll concede your point but to say they aren't objective because Hannity, an entertainer, isn't objective is a little out there.~

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