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    This would offset the problem of illegal aliens voting. One of Ann Coulter's best. UB

    TIME TO REPEAL THE 26TH AMENDMENT

    Jimmy Carter was such an abominable president we got Ronald Reagan, tax cuts, a booming economy and the destruction of the Soviet Union.

    Two years of Bill Clinton and a Democratic Congress got us the first Republican Congress in half a century, followed by tax cuts, welfare reform and a booming economy –- all of which Clinton now claims credit for.

    Obama's disastrous presidency has already produced Republican senators from Massachusetts, Wisconsin and Illinois; New Jersey's wonder-governor Chris Christie; and the largest House majority for Republicans since 1946.


    We deserve more. Clinton only threatened to wreck the health care system; Obama actually did it. We must repeal the 26th Amendment.

    Adopted in 1971 at the tail end of the Worst Generation's anti-war protests, the argument for allowing children to vote was that 18-year-olds could drink and be conscripted into the military, so they ought to be allowed to vote.

    But 18-year-olds aren't allowed to drink anymore. We no longer have a draft. In fact, while repealing the 26th Amendment, we ought to add a separate right to vote for members of the military, irrespective of age.

    As we have learned from ObamaCare, young people are not considered adults until age 26, at which point they are finally forced to get off their parents' health care plans. The old motto was "Old enough to fight, old enough to vote." The new motto is: "Not old enough to buy your own health insurance, not old enough to vote."

    Eighteen- to 26-year-olds don't have property, spouses, children or massive tax bills. Most of them don't even have jobs because the president they felt so good about themselves for supporting wrecked the economy.

    The meager tax young people paid for vehicle licensing fees on their cars threw them into such a blind rage that in 2003 they uncharacteristically voted to recall the Democratic governor of California, Gray Davis. Wait until they start making real money and realize they share a joint-checking account arrangement with the government! Literally wait. Then we'll let them vote.

    Having absolutely no idea what makes their precious cars run, by the way, young voters are the most likely to oppose offshore drilling.

    How about 10-year-olds? Why not give them the vote?

    Then we'd have politicians wooing voters with offers of free Justin Bieber tickets instead of offers of a "sustainable planet" or whatever hokum the youth have swallowed hook, line and sinker from their teachers, pop culture idols and other authority figures. (Along with their approved-by-the-authorities "Question Authority" bumper stickers.)

    Like 18-year-olds, the 10-year-olds would be sublimely unaware that they're the ones who will be footing the bill for all these "free" goodies, paying and paying until they die of old age.

    Brain research in the last five years at Dartmouth and elsewhere has shown that human brains are not fully developed until age 25 and are particularly deficient in their frontal lobes, which control decision-making, rational thinking, judgment, the ability to plan ahead and to resist impulses.

    Unfortunately, we didn't know that in 1971. Those of you who have made it to age 26 without dying in a stupid drinking game -- and I think congratulations are in order, by the way -- understand how insane it is to allow young people to vote.

    It would almost be tolerable if everyone under the age of 30 just admitted they voted for Obama because someone said to them, "C'mon, it's really cool! Everyone's doing it!"

    We trusted them, and now we know it was a mistake.

    True, Reagan tied with Carter for the youth vote in 1980 and stole younger voters from Mondale in 1984, but other than that, young voters have consistently embarrassed themselves. Of course, back when Reagan was running for president, young voters consisted of the one slice of the population completely uninfected by the Worst Generation. Today's youth are the infantilized, pampered, bicycle-helmeted children of the Worst Generation.

    They foisted this jug-eared, European socialist on us and now they must be punished. Voters aged 18 to 29 years old comprised nearly a fifth of the voting population in 2008 and they voted overwhelmingly for Obama, 66 percent to 31 percent.

    And it only took 12 to 14 years of North Korean-style brainwashing to make them do it! At least their teachers haven't brainwashed them into burning books or ratting out their parents to the Stasi yet. (Of course, before teaching them book-burning, their professors would be forced to teach them what a book is.)

    It would make more sense to give public school teachers and college professors 20 votes apiece than to allow their impressionable students to vote.

    The Re-Education Camp Effect can be seen in how these slackers living at home on their parents' health insurance voted in the middle of the Republican tidal wave this year. Youths aged 18-29 voted for the Democrats by 16 points. But the kids aged 18-24 -- having just received an A in Professor Ward Churchill's college class on American Oppression -- voted for the Democrats by a whopping 19 points.

    Young people voted for Obama as a fashion statement. One daughter of a friend of a friend of mine spent her whole college summer in 2008 working at a restaurant and then, with teary eyes, sent everything she made to the Obama campaign.

    Luckily, she doesn't have to worry about paying for tuition, rent or food. Or property taxes, electric bills, plumbers and electricians. After being exploited by the left, she'll end up paying for it for the rest of her life, with interest.

    Liberals fight tooth-and-nail to create an electorate disposed to vote Democratic by, for example, demanding that felons and illegal aliens be given the vote. But it's at least possible that illegal aliens and criminals pay taxes or have fully functioning frontal lobes.

    Republicans ought to fight for their own electorate, which at a minimum ought to mean voters with fully functioning brains and the possibility of a tax bill. Not old enough to buy your own health insurance, not old enough to vote.
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    Brain research in the last five years at Dartmouth and elsewhere has shown that human brains are not fully developed until age 25 and are particularly deficient in their frontal lobes, which control decision-making, rational thinking, judgment, the ability to plan ahead and to resist impulses.
    LOL! I guess scientists had to "prove" it ... any of us who honestly remember ourselves between the ages of 16 and 21 would know that from experience. After 21, gradually sanity begins to set in.
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    This from someone who was investigated for voter fraud herself? Not once but twice this has happened to her. Connecticut in 2009 has apparently also investigated some funny stuff about her voting record. She was ultimately cleared in the Connecticut case and Florida dropped the charges because of a statue of limitations issue.
    Maybe it's just me but I have a hard time listening to anything this frustrated adolescent screeches about.

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    Of course, the other side of the coin is that mental deterioration with aging begins to set in as early as 40, when hormones also begin to change significantly. Obviously, our Constitutional framers would have addressed this but, with a life expectancy of only 45 years, no one thought the geriatrics would be a significant part of the electorate. Add to that the fact that research routinely shows that those still smoking by the time they reach their more "mature" years have lower intellectual function than those who do not, the pattern is clear. Coulter, as a 48 years old smoker, has no business voting herself and the new Constitution she is seeking should probably limit voting to people between the ages of 25 and 45, since those are the only ages that seem unaffected by anything except alcohol and divorce. Why is it that many conservatives think the key to making democracy work is to limit who is permitted to vote?

    Sign me, age 61 and still voting anyway,
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    I really wish I hadn't read this garbage. At least I wouldn't be pissed off this morning.

    I can't believe you posted this trash, you ignorant b@st@rd. If you remember correctly, you old farts voted for Obama overwhelmingly also. Apparently, you don't remember that I reminded you of that the last time you posted some hate filled anti youth rant on here. Judging by your terrible memory (although I suspect it is selective) you shouldn't be voting either. How can you even remember who you want to vote for from the time they solicit your vote outside the polling place, you wait in line for 10 minutes, realize that you pissed on yourself, change your diaper in the bathroom after using your walker to go get a new one from the car, start over in the line again and finally get to the voting booth? That seems like waaay too much time and too many exciting events for you to remember a few names to check off on the ballot.

    I am 25 years old, have been married for 4.5 years, have 3 beautiful kids that are able to stay home with their amazing mommy because I work hard enough to make sure that I make enough money by myself that my wife doesn't have to leave them in any daycare. You don't support my family in the least bit. I suspect that you are collecting more govt dollars than I am though, you freaking freeloader. I pay attention to the news, vote responsibly, think for myself, go to church every Sunday, drag my butt to work every morning before you even change your first diaper, work late when I need to, sacrifice anything I need to for my family, don't accept any handouts, pay my taxes and I am never late on any bills of any kind. I have been that way (minus the wife and kids) since I was 18 and living on my own. Your broad characterization of 18-25 year olds is bullshit and blatant lies that are way too numerous to address individually. How about instead of bitching about 18-25 year olds 'not knowing what cars run on',why don't you bitch (and maybe even do something other than flap your gums) about the old farts from your generation that aren't teaching them shit in school? Oh, that's right, you just want to point the finger at everyone else, as usual. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it UB? I don't ever want to hear you say one word about Obama blaming Bush or the republicans or anyone for that matter for his shortcomings and failures. You are just as guilty, if not more, at blaming others and not being able to accept the fact that you are actually at fault. But what can I expect, you probably can't even remember that you actually did something wrong.

    Screw you and your cut and paste bullshit, UB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    Of course, the other side of the coin is that mental deterioration with aging begins to set in as early as 40, when hormones also begin to change significantly. Obviously, our Constitutional framers would have addressed this but, with a life expectancy of only 45 years, no one thought the geriatrics would be a significant part of the electorate. Add to that the fact that research routinely shows that those still smoking by the time they reach their more "mature" years have lower intellectual function than those who do not, the pattern is clear. Coulter, as a 48 years old smoker, has no business voting herself and the new Constitution she is seeking should probably limit voting to people between the ages of 25 and 45, since those are the only ages that seem unaffected by anything except alcohol and divorce. Why is it that many conservatives think the key to making democracy work is to limit who is permitted to vote?

    Sign me, age 61 and still voting anyway,
    Support please?
    Or is this a Yardley strawman??

    Maybe alcoholics shouldn't vote!!

    What the heck, maybe illegal aliens and convicted felons shouldn't vote?

    Oh what the heck, nothing to be afraid of, right Buzz??



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    I remember like it was yesterday going to the town clerks office on my 18th birthday with my Grandfather. I registered to vote and filed out the selective service card. Then we sent to Stewards for ice cream. I have voted in every election since. My Grandfather was very proud that I was eager to participate in the political process. I think this best suggestion yet in a terrible suggestion. I am in favor of some sort of aptitude test for all voters. Do they know who is running? Do they understand what local innitiaves and questions are on the ballot? Do they know how to vote? How to use whatever device is in front of them? Can they read and see or do they need polling worker assistance? I feel the stupid uninformed uncaring voter is far more dangerous than the young or old or smokey or tie dyed granola clustered voter. And as we all can see all around us……
    stupid comes in ALL ages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Support please?
    Or is this a Yardley strawman??

    Maybe alcoholics shouldn't vote!!

    What the heck, maybe illegal aliens and convicted felons shouldn't vote?

    Oh what the heck, nothing to be afraid of, right Buzz??



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    Actually, it comes from a British study that also found a statistically significant but intellectually insignificant decline in intelligence associated with smoking after adjusting for all other factors. My entire post was tongue in cheek, and I smoked 4 1/2 packs per day at the time I quit in 1987. However, for references:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-capacity.html

    http://drantoniohowell.com/2010/09/s...-intelligence/

    http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/173.full

    Many studies have shown correlations between smoking and intelligence, although it is harder to explain the relationship than it is to measure it. Theories include:
    • less intelligent people are more likely to begin and continue smoking than smarter people
    • children born to smoking mothers are likely to have lower birth weights and lower cognitive skills than children born to non-smoking mothers, plus they are more likely to smoke themselves
    • smoking actually damages cognition
    All of these factors appear to be relevant. However, the total difference in intelligence levels found are less than 1/2 of one standard deviation, or about 7 points of IQ.

    My own view on voting is that we should actively encourage all eligible people to vote, and remove barriers to voting wherever we find them. I supported the reduction in voting age when it happened (even though it happened too late for me), and could not have been prouder when my own kids began to vote and take a hand in directing their own futures. I tend to think that Ann Coulter and her followers won't truly be happy with voting rules until they can figure out how to make support for Ann Coulter's own beliefs a precondition for voting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    I really wish I hadn't read this garbage. At least I wouldn't be pissed off this morning.

    I can't believe you posted this trash, you ignorant b@st@rd. If you remember correctly, you old farts voted for Obama overwhelmingly also. Apparently, you don't remember that I reminded you of that the last time you posted some hate filled anti youth rant on here. Judging by your terrible memory (although I suspect it is selective) you shouldn't be voting either. How can you even remember who you want to vote for from the time they solicit your vote outside the polling place, you wait in line for 10 minutes, realize that you pissed on yourself, change your diaper in the bathroom after using your walker to go get a new one from the car, start over in the line again and finally get to the voting booth? That seems like waaay too much time and too many exciting events for you to remember a few names to check off on the ballot.

    I am 25 years old, have been married for 4.5 years, have 3 beautiful kids that are able to stay home with their amazing mommy because I work hard enough to make sure that I make enough money by myself that my wife doesn't have to leave them in any daycare. You don't support my family in the least bit. I suspect that you are collecting more govt dollars than I am though, you freaking freeloader. I pay attention to the news, vote responsibly, think for myself, go to church every Sunday, drag my butt to work every morning before you even change your first diaper, work late when I need to, sacrifice anything I need to for my family, don't accept any handouts, pay my taxes and I am never late on any bills of any kind. I have been that way (minus the wife and kids) since I was 18 and living on my own. Your broad characterization of 18-25 year olds is bullshit and blatant lies that are way too numerous to address individually. How about instead of bitching about 18-25 year olds 'not knowing what cars run on',why don't you bitch (and maybe even do something other than flap your gums) about the old farts from your generation that aren't teaching them shit in school? Oh, that's right, you just want to point the finger at everyone else, as usual. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it UB? I don't ever want to hear you say one word about Obama blaming Bush or the republicans or anyone for that matter for his shortcomings and failures. You are just as guilty, if not more, at blaming others and not being able to accept the fact that you are actually at fault. But what can I expect, you probably can't even remember that you actually did something wrong.

    Screw you and your cut and paste bullshit, UB.
    LOL. A little over-wrought don't ya think?

    Since you're drawing lines in the generational sand, FWIW, 2 out of 3 of your peeps voted for Obama and a plurality of UB's peeps voted for McCain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YardleyLabs View Post
    I smoked 4 1/2 packs per day at the time I quit in 1987.
    Holy schnickes! You must have used the butt end of one to light the next from sun up to sun down. That must have been a biatch to quit. Good for you.
    I'll take the river down to still water and ride a pack of dogs.

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