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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    In NM, and AZ, open carry is still the law. You can get a concealed carry permit in both states, but why jump thru the hoops? Strap it on, wear it were you want...Bars, banks, and other restrictions still apply though.
    I have customers come into the store in full open carry at the same time there are LEO's. Never a second glance.
    I think a sidearm in full view is more of a deterant than, Oh, he might be armed...JD

    One of the guys that is the night janitor where I work wears a sidearm in full view...comes in at about 8 oclock to start cleaning..about an hour before we close...I have never seen him not wear it...no one has ever paid much attn to it or commented on it. LOL...of course this is Alaska...

    If you get pulled over by troopers up here you are required to tell them if you have a concealed weapon.

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    Does anyone have stats that show how many crimes have been prevented/stopped by people exercising their right to carry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    Does anyone have stats that show how many crimes have been prevented/stopped by people exercising their right to carry?
    I'm looking. I'm sure its significant. Not because people brandished their gun and scared off an perp (although I'm sure that happens) but moreso because when carrying, many will be more aware of their environment, and avoid a situation that would require the use of their CW in the first place. I know when I carry, I am hyper-vigilant to avoid any trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    I'm looking. I'm sure its significant. Not because people brandished their gun and scared off an perp (although I'm sure that happens) but moreso because when carrying, many will be more aware of their environment, and avoid a situation that would require the use of their CW in the first place. I know when I carry, I am hyper-vigilant to avoid any trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    Does anyone have stats that show how many crimes have been prevented/stopped by people exercising their right to carry?
    Even if we can find some numbers I don't think they'll be anywhere near the actuals, though just reading "The Armed Citizen" in the NRA magazines shows it's pretty common and widespread. Just an example, in the Rodney King riots, my carpool buddy and I were approached by a group of about 12 angry looking black men while stopped at a red light while trying to get home. My partner pointed the 870 we had with us out his window and the group stopped it's progress. Light turned green, cross traffic stopped and we were outta there!!
    No "incident", nothing to report, no statistic.

    Also jmtc, along with what DNF said, when you're carrying you have (or at least should have) what Jeff Cooper called "the combat mindset". You're more alert for trouble, not acting like a "sheep" and that alone can deter some problems with "goblins" before they ever get started so no stats there either.

    Fwiw, I think a more telling statistic could be comparing assault/robbery report rates between neighboring carry/non-carry states.
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