Mississippi Governor to run for President 2012?

[dnf777]

I don't see how the statements that HB made in the context that he made them are racist. If they had been made by anyone other than a white conservative from Mississippi then noone would have thought twice about them. Its always assumed that a white man from the south is racist. HB represents the new south republicans that are all about politics and not race.

HB was referring to racial violence in his town. Many towns in Mississippi wanted the KKK out of their communities because it was an embarassment and also bad for business. In Meridian it wasn't the feds or the national media that ran out the KKK in the 60's. It was the local business leaders. The KKK was not only intimidating blacks, but also Jewish and Catholic members of the community.

The only question about HB in this mess is his judgement. As long as he has been involved in politics he knows to never ever make any comments about civil rights history or race being a white southerner. Those comments will be snipped out of context and will be sound bites in a political ad in the future.

Bill

I'm more concerned with his strong lobbyist ties. He represented everything that many of us have said is wrong with gov't today.

I fear he is just a 300# version of Tom DeLay.

[Blackstone]

With all due respect, isn't the bold type above the very thing wrong with most thinking today. What are you going to do for me. Never mind what's right for the country.
Glad you choose the best man for the job though, maybe some of what's good for you will be good for me.
Walt

Walt,

Perhaps my meaning came across wrong. In general, what's in the country's best interest is in my best interest as well. If the economy is good, I have a job and make money, if not, I suffer. If they raise taxes, I pay more, so I suffer. If jobs go overseas, I risk losing mine. So, rather than vote some party line, I try to vote for whose going to do me the most good.

[depittydawg]

Walt,

Perhaps my meaning came across wrong. In general, what's in the country's best interest is in my best interest as well. If the economy is good, I have a job and make money, if not, I suffer. If they raise taxes, I pay more, so I suffer. If jobs go overseas, I risk losing mine. So, rather than vote some party line, I try to vote for whose going to do me the most good.

Well, if the Republicans run a middle of the road moderate like Haley Barbour, anything can happen in 2012...

[BonMallari]

Well, if the Republicans run a middle of the road moderate like Haley Barbour, anything can happen in 2012...

HB is NOT a moderate republican

[Blackstone]

BINGO BINGO...and that was my point as well Blackstone...

You seemed to miss that, I didnt expect you to link it because as you point out correctly there is NO "DIRECT" link between the two....

but as you so willingly point out that REPUBLICANS DO NOT DISTANCE themselve from "hot button topics"

NEITHER WILL THE DEMOCRAT"S OR OBAMA....in fact I think he loves it and plays it well....

By doing nothing about it, says just as much to me as supporting it.....

NEW BLACK PANTHERS....and that OHHH SO STUPID COP IN CT....just HARRASSING THE BLACK MAN.

its the new sheik thing....point out the white man....and disguise the rampant racisim with-in minorities.

Look, I am not going to sugar coat anything, if you were to meet me you would know I dont have a racisit bone in me, but I will not play the PC game. So to "read" my words is different than to see me and how I would engage the conversation....I dont want you to READ what I am saying above and think of me as a racisit but the truth is what it is and I see MORE reverse racisism than I do what would be called traditional racisim 10 fold. Maybe it is becasue I live in the BAY AREA of CALIFORNIA and miniorities feel comfortable to "LASH OUT" with their words, actions, and behiviors in general because they will be given a pass...maybe its different down south still...

but when I see our PRESIDENT and ATTY GENERAL, not only doing nothing about people praticing racisim but in an underlying tone praising it (by taking sides) it hurts my confidence in the administration that ANYONE WILL GET A FAIR SHAKE.

So to take just as I have, a single event or person, and PAINT either side is just not accurate...you are trying to paint the republicans out to be a party welcoming and harboring racisim....Subroc and I just dont see it that way.

NCA

You still don’t understand. This should not be about playing tit for tat. One doing something wrong does not justify it being done by the other side.

I don’t know what it is like in the Bay area, but whichever side racism is coming from, it’s still wrong. But, I can tell you, racism is still alive and well in much of this country. If you’re not seeing it, you need to get out more. You don’t have to go down south to find it. In fact, in recent years, I have experienced less of it in the south than in other parts of the country.

I still don’t know what you perceive as Obama’s connection to the New Black Panther Party. He doesn’t need to apologize for them, or distance himself from them any more than any past president needed to distance themselves from the KKK, skin heads or neo-nazis. What did they do about those groups? Were you concerned about who was getting a fair shake then?

If this was a single person or single event, there would be no issue, but it’s not. I’m not trying to paint the entire party as racist. However, can you honestly there isn’t a racist element that has aligned itself with the Republican Party, and can you honestly say the Republican Party has tried to push these people away?

[depittydawg]

HB is NOT a moderate republican

That was a joke my friend. Sarcasm...

[Blackstone]

The thing I have found most interesting about this discussing is that only one Republican (and, I’m making that assumption), BonMallari, seemed to find anything wrong with Barbour’s comments and support of the White Citizens Council. Everyone else immediately began to point fingers at the Democrats, left wing media, NAACP, Obama Administration, etc. trying to show they were just as bad. I even offered up a few others with racist stances that have attached themselves to the Republican band wagon. Once again, no one seemed to find their racist views abhorrent and think they should not be tolerated. No one thought the Republicans should distance themselves from these people. This is what I was talking about, these views seem to be ignored, if not tolerated, by the Republican Party. So, given the connection of these people to the Republican Party, do you think most minorities would feel comfortable affiliating themselves with the Republican Party? I go back to my original comment, “Is there any wonder so few minorities support and identify with that party?”

[subroc]

Well, on that issue, I doubt that HB is a racist much as I doubt that there are 57 states.

[walt8@cox.net]

The thing I have found most interesting about this discussing is that only one Republican (and, I’m making that assumption), BonMallari, seemed to find anything wrong with Barbour’s comments and support of the White Citizens Council. Everyone else immediately began to point fingers at the Democrats, left wing media, NAACP, Obama Administration, etc. trying to show they were just as bad. I even offered up a few others with racist stances that have attached themselves to the Republican band wagon. Once again, no one seemed to find their racist views abhorrent and think they should not be tolerated. No one thought the Republicans should distance themselves from these people. This is what I was talking about, these views seem to be ignored, if not tolerated, by the Republican Party. So, given the connection of these people to the Republican Party, do you think most minorities would feel comfortable affiliating themselves with the Republican Party? I go back to my original comment, “Is there any wonder so few minorities support and identify with that party?”

I jumped on calling someone a racist a few months back, turned out I was wrong. Mislead or not, I won't do it again. It's gotten so that you can't believe a thing you see or hear.
If it came right down to it, I doubt there are many people on this forum that wouldn't give the shirt off his back to anyone, of any race, that needed it.
Merry Christmas, to you, and not just if you're a Christian.
Walt

[Blackstone]

I jumped on calling someone a racist a few months back, turned out I was wrong. Mislead or not, I won't do it again. It's gotten so that you can't believe a thing you see or hear.
If it came right down to it, I doubt there are many people on this forum that wouldn't give the shirt off his back to anyone, of any race, that needed it.
Merry Christmas, to you, and not just if you're a Christian.
Walt

Thanks, Walt. Merry Christmas to you and your family.