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    i have a question about the new law concerning open gays serving in the military. the first one is what is openly gay? will they be able to take a same sex person to the marine corps dance? can they lounge around in dresses? will they be able to hold hands etc. i don't know so i just thought i'd ask.also the next thing to come out of the courts will be a ruling about doing all these things becouse it would not be fair that they couldn't do it.after all it's aginst the law in prison to have a gay encounter and it still goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat addis View Post
    i have a question about the new law concerning open gays serving in the military. the first one is what is openly gay? will they be able to take a same sex person to the marine corps dance? can they lounge around in dresses? will they be able to hold hands etc. i don't know so i just thought i'd ask.also the next thing to come out of the courts will be a ruling about doing all these things becouse it would not be fair that they couldn't do it.after all it's aginst the law in prison to have a gay encounter and it still goes on.
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    Why is it so important to be openly gay in the military? The military is not a place for anyone's sexuality to be flaunted, regardless of orientation. I doubt that just because DADT was repealed soldiers will stand around gawking at the Playgirl centerfold or talking about when the Chippendale's are coming to the Full Moon Saloon openly. It may be legal, but it still won't be accepted or have much participation. So what has changed for gays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    Why is it so important to be openly gay in the military? The military is not a place for anyone's sexuality to be flaunted, regardless of orientation. I doubt that just because DADT was repealed soldiers will stand around gawking at the Playgirl centerfold or talking about when the Chippendale's are coming to the Full Moon Saloon openly. It may be legal, but it still won't be accepted or have much participation. So what has changed for gays?
    Hopefully, Nothing. The military is not the place for that, plain and simple. But this is just my opinion.
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    stump,(or anyone else) you were in the military...answer a question for me please because I am too lazy to look it up right now...

    Isn't it against some military law for males/females to bunk together in combat (or maybe always)?? It seems like I have heard that at some point in the past...

    If it's true, will they have to build seperate living quarters for gays to stay in?

    Could be just one of many sticky situations...(no pun intended)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    stump,(or anyone else) you were in the military...answer a question for me please because I am too lazy to look it up right now...

    Isn't it against some military law for males/females to bunk together in combat (or maybe always)?? It seems like I have heard that at some point in the past...

    If it's true, will they have to build seperate living quarters for gays to stay in?

    Could be just one of many sticky situations...(no pun intended)
    Not against the law, but against military standards. And if caught, you could face UCMJ action. We didn't have women in my unit, or any support unit around us when I was in, so we didn't have to worry about that.

    That is going to be the problem, in my opinion. When you try to place openly gay men with straight men problems will arise. How many gay guys are going to get the crap kicked out of them in the shower because some straight(and possibly homophobic)guy starts yelling that the gay guy was checking everyone out? Heck, I saw this happen when I was in, to guys that weren't gay(supposedly) and some guy would yell that.

    I bet it's gonna get ugly.
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    I'm sure if given another chance at it you'd want to reword this a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    I'm sure if given another chance at it you'd want to reword this a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpholehunter View Post
    Dude, I owe you one.


    I just removed the quote. No evidence, LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpholehunter View Post
    Not against the law, but against military standards. And if caught, you could face UCMJ action. We didn't have women in my unit, or any support unit around us when I was in, so we didn't have to worry about that.
    So what is the difference between a straight woman/straight man bunking together and a gay man bunking with a bunch of straight guys? You would think that they couldn't just send the gays to the women's tent to sleep, so where do they belong?

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