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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Snow, ICE, frigid temps, football is a game made to be played outdoors on GRASS!!



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    Are they playing on grass or ice?

    The NFL is the world's second most viewed sport in the world.The only area interested in watching frozen football are those in the upper midwest and northeast.

    The rest of the football fans want to see big plays and talent that is not hindered by weather!
    It's such a shame that in the USA, defending Liberty has become such a heroic deed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Are they playing on grass or ice?

    The NFL is the world's second most viewed sport in the world.The only area interested in watching frozen football are those in the upper midwest and northeast.

    The rest of the football fans want to see big plays and talent that is not hindered by weather!
    That's called the NBA!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    The rest of the football fans want to see big plays and talent that is not hindered by weather!
    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    That's called the NBA!!!RK
    Women’s Beach Volleyball came to mind for me,
    But I guess you could watch the NBA for that as well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Well Franco, I am doubtfull of that game happening.
    I think, for some reason, the Eagles are this years team.
    But defense wins Championships, and the Saints "D" looks good.
    To go in and beat Atlanta at home is BIG!!!
    (19-2 at home?)

    Just sayin'......


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    Someone forgot to tell the Vikings this yesterday.

    Packers will beat the Eagles in the playoffs! That is, if the can beat the Bears this weekend in your beloved fronzen tundra of Lambeau, which they should. Bears don't have anything to play for this weekend and the Pack needs to win to stay alive.
    It's such a shame that in the USA, defending Liberty has become such a heroic deed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    You are missing a few things about the NFL and fans today.

    First of all, fans around the country do not want to watch a game that is determined by poor weather. TV pays the NFL billions for the rights to broadcast games and the NFL owes it to deliver a better product. Ratings and interest in the Rust Belt teams is way down!

    Just look at which game was the highest rated Monday Night game this season, two dome teams!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5964359

    In regards to not being able to get to the stadium, that is an excuse. Police escorted buses could get them to the game.
    Why then do the packers have a waiting list to get season tickets? On really big games you cant find a ticket anywhere What i here you can get tickets any time you want at other stadiums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starjack View Post
    Why then do the packers have a waiting list to get season tickets? On really big games you cant find a ticket anywhere What i here you can get tickets any time you want at other stadiums.
    29 of the 32 teams in the NFL have waiting list for season tickets.

    I am not disputing the Packers popularity with thier fans. The point I brought up in my previous post is that many of the open-aired stadiums in the upper midwest and northeast aren't delivering the television audiences that the TV networks are paying for. That's because many NFL viewers would rather not watch a game where the weather becomes the biggest factor and not the players.

    We all know the old-school NFL teams have a proud and glorious past. The original 10 still play in outdoor stadiums and they are located in the upper midwest and northeast. But, back then, the season was done by Thanksgiving.

    Those teams should be embracing the future as much as they are holding onto the past! The future is state-of-the-art stadiums where fans and players can get out of the weather. These new stadiums will allow ownership to make more money. When the new agreement is done (CBA), players pay will go through the roof and ownership is always looking to make more money, it's a buisness first - sport second situation. Just ask the fans in Baltimore as they were none more loyal.

    Is it going to take an old-school NFL team to move to another city for the opportunity to make a lot more money and play in a better facility to make fans realize the game has changed? I know the city owns the Packers so they'll probably hold on to old Lambeau but, don't expect to see thier games get televised nationally very much unless they are in the playoffs.
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    It's such a shame that in the USA, defending Liberty has become such a heroic deed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    29 of the 32 teams in the NFL have waiting list for season tickets.

    I am not disputing the Packers popularity with thier fans. The point I brought up in my previous post is that many of the open-aired stadiums in the upper midwest and northeast aren't delivering the television audiences that the TV networks are paying for. That's because many NFL viewers would rather not watch a game where the weather becomes the biggest factor and not the players.

    We all know the old-school NFL teams have a proud and glorious past. The original 10 still play in outdoor stadiums and they are located in the upper midwest and northeast. But, back then, the season was done by Thanksgiving.

    Those teams should be embracing the future as much as they are holding onto the past! The future is state-of-the-art stadiums where fans and players can get out of the weather. These new stadiums will allow ownership to make more money. When the new agreement is done (CBA), players pay will go through the roof and ownership is always looking to make more money, it's a buisness first - sport second situation. Just ask the fans in Baltimore as they were none more loyal.

    Is it going to take an old-school NFL team to move to another city for the opportunity to make a lot more money and play in a better facility to make fans realize the game has changed? I know the city owns the Packers so they'll probably hold on to old Lambeau but, don't expect to see thier games get televised nationally very much unless they are in the playoffs.
    I am in agreement that is buisness first they need the money to pay for the best talent. But on the other hand Lets say the packer are rolling like your saints or new england. The networks are going to televise those game for sure and if memory serves me isn` there tv revanue sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starjack View Post
    I am in agreement that is buisness first they need the money to pay for the best talent. But on the other hand Lets say the packer are rolling like your saints or new england. The networks are going to televise those game for sure and if memory serves me isn` there tv revanue sharing.
    Road Kill knows that I have been pulling for a Saints vs Packers NFC Championship game all season long. I expect the Packers to beat the Bears this weekend and then see the two NFC Wildcards sweep the Conference! The only other QB form the NFC I would want on my team if we didn't have Brees is Aaron Rodgers.

    Yes, the TV revenue is shared. However, the TV Networks look at the audience delivered by all the games including the regular season. For the last 20 years they have witnessed a decline in ratings of regular season games played in heavy weather elements. Not so much a loss in viewing by the local fans but a loss of viewing on a national broadcast of regular season games played in poor weather.

    A couple of weeks ago, a game played by two also rans, I think it was Dallas vs Arizona or another warm climate team had better ratings than two heavy-weights that played thier game in sloppy conditions. I won't name that game but it was two old-school NFL teams. Not the first time it has happened but a clear trend that TV executives won't dismiss because the higher the viewing audience the more they can charge for commercials.
    It's such a shame that in the USA, defending Liberty has become such a heroic deed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Road Kill knows that I have been pulling for a Saints vs Packers NFC Championship game all season long. I expect the Packers to beat the Bears this weekend and then see the two NFC Wildcards sweep the Conference! The only other QB form the NFC I would want on my team if we didn't have Brees is Aaron Rodgers.

    Yes, the TV revenue is shared. However, the TV Networks look at the audience delivered by all the games including the regular season. For the last 20 years they have witnessed a decline in ratings of regular season games played in heavy weather elements. Not so much a loss in viewing by the local fans but a loss of viewing on a national broadcast of regular season games played in poor weather.

    A couple of weeks ago, a game played by two also rans, I think it was Dallas vs Arizona or another warm climate team had better ratings than two heavy-weights that played thier game in sloppy conditions. I won't name that game but it was two old-school NFL teams. Not the first time it has happened but a clear trend that TV executives won't dismiss because the higher the viewing audience the more they can charge for commercials.
    We have to get by the bears first. But if the bears were fighting for there spot like the packers i think that would be a highly watched game with the rivelry and all. They did move it to the late game as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    29 of the 32 teams in the NFL have waiting list for season tickets.
    And we've got 2 of the 3 remaining teams within 90 miles. Where's the third?

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