The RetrieverTraining.Net Forums The Retriever Academy
Total Retriever Training with Mike Lardy
Hawkeye Media Gunners Up Tritronics Outdoor Media
Page 4 of 9 FirstFirst ... 23456 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 86

Thread: Memorial service, share your thoughts

  1. #31
    Senior Member huntinman's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    7,107

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    The GOP and its media allies have had a huge amount of success harnessing the resentment of people who feel their status has been destroyed as one group after another (women, blacks, gays, slackers, ect...) has gained the rights due them.
    Slackers have rights too?
    Bill Davis

  2. #32
    Senior Member Buzz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Brookings, South Dakota
    Posts
    6,802

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by helencalif View Post
    Who OK'd ordering the T-shirts and who put them out on the chairs?

    T-shirts for a memorial service? Seems odd to me.

    Of course the knee jerk reaction of the pundits at RTF is to assume it was Obama's fault. Here is a story from Faux News.


    EXCLUSIVE: Univ. of Arizona Reveals Origin of Memorial T-Shirts

    Many Americans were startled to see University of Arizona students distributing t-shirts at the memorial service in Tucson yesterday. On the front of the shirts, "Together We Thrive" was printed, along with a trendy logo.

    University spokeswoman Jennifer Fitzenberger told FoxNation.com "it was our idea to do the t-shirts." She said distributing merchandise at a memorial was appropriate and rejected the charge that the University over-commercialized the service. "Our intention was to have something to remember after the event...something that symbolizes our community's spirit...which would live on." When asked if the University had worked with the White House or any partisan groups on any level regarding the t-shirts she said "no."

    Fitzenberger insisted the University made no money from the "Together We Thrive" t-shirts and they weren't for sale. "We took the idea to University of Arizona BookStores and they contracted it out with a vendor." Reports put the cost of the t-shirts at $60,000.

    FoxNation.com spoke to representatives at University of Arizona BookStores who revealed the vendor they used...."Youth Monument," a Los Angeles-based company specializing in "the hottest" college brands. "I don't feel comfortable commenting on the story," said Nick Ventura when contacted by FoxNation.com. Ventura called himself "a partner" at Youth Monument. When asked if the University of Arizona was a regular client and if there was any contact with the White House or any political group he responded "no comment."
    "For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required." -- Luke 12:48

    Raven - Moneybird's Black Magic Marker***
    (Esprit's Power Play x Trumarc's Lean Cuisine)
    Mick - Moneybird's Jumpin' Jack Flash***
    (Clubmead's Road Warrior x Oakdale Whitewater Devil Dog)
    Peerless - Moneybird's Sole Survivor
    (Two River's Lucky Willie x Moneybird's Black Magic Marker)

  3. #33
    Senior Member luvmylabs23139's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    3,800

    Default

    The whole T-shirt thing was digusting no matter who did it. I never said it was Obumma, just that it was totally disgusting as was the behavior of the crowd.
    Hihope Hiland Heathen of Perth CD, RE, CGC, TDI

  4. #34
    Senior Member BrianW's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Athol, North Idaho
    Posts
    885

    Default

    For the most part, (to paraphrase the FLOTUS), the memorial was the first time since the election that I was proud of our President. He quoted Scripture, from Psalms & Job not the Koran or other religious works, stated that Christina was in Heaven ( not "in a better place") and asked for God's blessing for the victims, those left behind, and for our country as a whole. He honored the memories of those taken by reminding us of a lot of what makes our country great which is what a President should do in times like these.
    Was he perfect? Imo, no. He repeatedly trotted out the timeworn mis-description of our nation- "our democracy" - even though for now we still live in a republic and, in my view, set the stage for legislators coming efforts to restrict our liberty. "We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of such violence in the future."

    But he also set a challenge for us, and for himself and I'm curious to see if he lives up to it. As has been pointed out here and elsewhere, the name calling, finger pointing etc comes from both directions and PBO has been a major player in that game. He "wants to live up to [Christina's) expectations". Good. If he can be lead by example, we'll all be better for it.

    I am curious though about the words of Daniel Hernandez.
    "On Saturday, we all became Tucsonians. On Saturday, we all became Arizonans. And above all we all became Americans."
    Now I realize this man is only 20 years old, not an experienced public speaker and (imo) was trying to tap into the 9/11 type phraseology of unifying. But we were already "all Americans", we didn't "become" on Saturday. Now if he had said "And above all, we all came together as Americans" that would have been different. I hate to sound so cynical at a time like this but I have to think his words were chosen carefully, if not written for him.
    Do you think this a veiled reference to the debate on immigration reform?
    Just a misstatement or an intentional injection of personal politics into an available opportunity?
    "It's not that government is inherently stupid, although that's a debatable question."
    Rand Paul CPAC speech 2011

    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. Thomas Jefferson to Archibald Stuart, 1791
    ________________________________________
    Proud partner of (HR) WR SR Brian's 44Magnum Monster
    co-owned by HR Rianne's 2nd Chance Hurricane Rebel

  5. #35
    Senior Member Jason Glavich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    woodbridge,VA
    Posts
    1,943

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    A picture is worth 1,000 words.



    RK
    All that work to put the shirts on the chairs and they couldn't even cover and align the chairs to begin with!

    I would think the CIC would require perfection in those types of things. It just looks sloppy.
    My Father,My Friend,My teacher,and now My Angel~ 04/21/1956-03/21/2011 You will always be missed. I hope to learn half of the stuff you knew.

    ~Blessed are those who mourn for they shall be comforted~

  6. #36
    Senior Member M&K's Retrievers's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Royse City, TX
    Posts
    5,168

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    Maybe it's because we are tired of giving things away.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    The GOP and its media allies have had a huge amount of success harnessing the resentment of people who feel their status has been destroyed as one group after another (women, blacks, gays, slackers, ect...) has gained the rights due them.
    Buzz, I'm talking about CASH!
    M&K's HR UH Tucker of Texoma JH
    M&K's SHR Prime Black Angus
    M&K's Miss Jessie Girl JH
    Sir Jacob of Lakeview-Jake
    Freeway JYD

    Mike Whitworth

  7. #37
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    6

    Default

    Not really my kind of thing

  8. #38
    Senior Member dnf777's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Western Pa
    Posts
    6,161

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    For the most part, (to paraphrase the FLOTUS), the memorial was the first time since the election that I was proud of our President. He quoted Scripture, from Psalms & Job not the Koran or other religious works, stated that Christina was in Heaven ( not "in a better place") and asked for God's blessing for the victims, those left behind, and for our country as a whole. He honored the memories of those taken by reminding us of a lot of what makes our country great which is what a President should do in times like these.
    Was he perfect? Imo, no. He repeatedly trotted out the timeworn mis-description of our nation- "our democracy" - even though for now we still live in a republic and, in my view, set the stage for legislators coming efforts to restrict our liberty. "We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of such violence in the future."

    But he also set a challenge for us, and for himself and I'm curious to see if he lives up to it. As has been pointed out here and elsewhere, the name calling, finger pointing etc comes from both directions and PBO has been a major player in that game. He "wants to live up to [Christina's) expectations". Good. If he can be lead by example, we'll all be better for it.

    I am curious though about the words of Daniel Hernandez.
    "On Saturday, we all became Tucsonians. On Saturday, we all became Arizonans. And above all we all became Americans."
    Now I realize this man is only 20 years old, not an experienced public speaker and (imo) was trying to tap into the 9/11 type phraseology of unifying. But we were already "all Americans", we didn't "become" on Saturday. Now if he had said "And above all, we all came together as Americans" that would have been different. I hate to sound so cynical at a time like this but I have to think his words were chosen carefully, if not written for him.
    Do you think this a veiled reference to the debate on immigration reform?
    Just a misstatement or an intentional injection of personal politics into an available opportunity?

    Come on guys! Between thinly veiled cod-words to immigration reform, to chairs that are laser-aligned.....ya'll are sounding ridiculous!

    It was a beautiful ceremony. It paid respects, it celebrated life. It was apolitical. A true hero gave his comments.

    Give it a freakin' break!

    Find some good in the world for once. Not everything has to be evil and sinister.
    God Bless PFC Jamie Harkness. The US Army's newest PFC, but still our neighbor's little girl!

  9. #39
    Senior Member road kill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    New Berlin, WI
    Posts
    10,735

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Come on guys! Between thinly veiled cod-words to immigration reform, to chairs that are laser-aligned.....ya'll are sounding ridiculous!

    It was a beautiful ceremony. It paid respects, it celebrated life. It was apolitical. A true hero gave his comments.

    Give it a freakin' break!

    Find some good in the world for once. Not everything has to be evil and sinister.
    YES IT DOES!!!!

    RK
    Stan b & Elvis

  10. #40
    Senior Member BonMallari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    LV/CenTex/Idaho
    Posts
    12,637

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Come on guys! Between thinly veiled cod-words to immigration reform, to chairs that are laser-aligned.....ya'll are sounding ridiculous!

    It was a beautiful ceremony. It paid respects, it celebrated life. It was apolitical. A true hero gave his comments.

    Give it a freakin' break!

    Find some good in the world for once. Not everything has to be evil and sinister.
    were we watching the same event ?

    I guess your idea of a beautiful ceremony and my idea of a pep rally are two different things..

    To each their own
    All my Exes live in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by lanse brown View Post
    A few things that I learned still ring true. "Lanse when you get a gift, say thank you and walk away. When you get a screwing walk away. You are going to get a lot more screwings than gifts"

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •