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    Senior Member Leddyman's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leddyman View Post
    George bush's liberal policies and liberal republicans are the reason we got a socialist president and both houses of congress. Freakin McCain is a democrat at least half of the time. When he sees which way the wind is blowing he starts talking tough. People are sick of liberal republicans. At least the people who vote republican,,,
    I didn't vote for McCain. Rather have a Dem in the WH than another liberal republican. If the republican party doesn't have enough sense to send a conservative candidate up after the midterm elections then screw 'em.
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    ...., ya got a point?

    "The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals & policies...is a foolish idea. Instead the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can throw the rascals out at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. Then, it should be possible to replace it every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things, but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same base policies."

    Professor Carroll Quigley from "Tragedy & Hope" (and self described by Bill Clinton as an important influence on his political goals & aspirations)

    "That’s what the people who sent us here expect of us. With their votes, they’ve determined that governing will now be a shared responsibility between parties. New laws will only pass with support from Democrats and Republicans. We will move forward together, or not at all -– for the challenges we face are bigger than party, and bigger than politics.
    At stake right now is not who wins the next election -– after all, we just had an election...
    That’s the project the American people want us to work on. Together."

    President Obama SoTU 2011

    Did PBO repudiate any of his positions from before the elections?
    Imo, no.
    Did he admit to any mistakes? Again, no.
    So he's being praised by many as "a Clintonesque centrist"
    And wants RINO's like McCain, who are all to happy to flip back to their true progressive selves after talking tough prior to Nov., to help him solidify his accomplishments and achieve his "new" goals (which are really the same as the old ones) , because parties don't matter.
    Hmmm, isn't that what Quigley postulated?

    Arizona Senator John McCain said on Sunday he thought President Obama had "learned a lot" in his first two years as president, and that he saw adjustments in the president's politics following the November midterm elections.
    I think he's doing a lot of right things.
    "I think the president has already changed a great deal," McCain said.
    "He'll be saying some things that we don't agree with, but obviously with the new appointments, with an agenda where he wants free trade agreements passed … I think there's going to be a number of areas that we can at least find common ground on."

    "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,"
    "It's not that government is inherently stupid, although that's a debatable question."
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