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Thread: breaking and switching on the diversion bird?

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    Default breaking and switching on the diversion bird?

    so breaking i think i can fix without much work. but my 2 year old has never in his life switched birds. until his first seasoned test this weekend. he almost did it both days but i got him stopped and he grabbed the right bird and got it to me. any tips on fixing switching? dave

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    "No, here" and whistle toots if mine even thinks about switching.
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    I don't consider a dog proofed for an "HRC style" diversion until it will ignore a shackled, quacking mallard hen while returning with a bumper. The first time you try it, make sure you are between the dog & the duck. Physical intervention is often necessary to make the point.

    To proof breaking, use the same shackled duck thrown over your head.

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    it is the bird thrown at the line on his way in. when he did it on saturday i couldnt proses what i was seeing.it took a second for me to get on the whistle. i get him heading to it the bird but dropping his mark and bolting just blows my mind. for him that is.
    day 2 i was ready with the whistle. as soon as i shot he sat. i thought great he has it. i turned to set the gun in the stand. when i turned back he had no bird in his and was almost to the diversion bird. hit the whistle and he stopped, looked and went back for his marked bird. i hear one of the judges exhale and say that was close. lol

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    Mark Land's way of doing it should work with even the most hard headed dog.

    Mine was trained with plenty of dead ducks thrown in front of her face (within a few feet) while she was returning from a mark or blind while in training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griff68w View Post
    it is the bird thrown at the line on his way in. when he did it on saturday i couldnt proses what i was seeing.it took a second for me to get on the whistle. i get him heading to it the bird but dropping his mark and bolting just blows my mind. for him that is.
    day 2 i was ready with the whistle. as soon as i shot he sat. i thought great he has it. i turned to set the gun in the stand. when i turned back he had no bird in his and was almost to the diversion bird. hit the whistle and he stopped, looked and went back for his marked bird. i hear one of the judges exhale and say that was close. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishduck View Post
    I don't consider a dog proofed for an "HRC style" diversion until it will ignore a shackled, quacking mallard hen while returning with a bumper. The first time you try it, make sure you are between the dog & the duck. Physical intervention is often necessary to make the point.
    And make sure the heeling stick wielding handler doesn't hit you when you are part of a "group intervention." Right Mark?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RookieTrainer View Post
    And make sure the heeling stick wielding handler doesn't hit you when you are part of a "group intervention." Right Mark?

    It would be hard for me to imagine a worse way to correct switching to a diversion bird on the return from a blind or mark. Are you people serious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
    NEVER turn your back on your dog! Wait until he is sitting at your side, THEN place the gun in the stand! -Paul
    Excellent advice!!

    The later solution was used for one test wise dog when the normal list of solutions had been tried and exhausted. It worked for this dog. NOT a solution for most dogs.
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    I would think (My Opinion) its an function (Issue) with the dogs FF.

    After all,, a dog that wont drop a bird,,cant switch.
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