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    Default Do you do stick fetch?

    I've heard that many people do not do stick fetch. Do you do stick fetch? Why or why not?

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    I do.

    It starts as the first "real" proofing of the dog's understanding of ear pinch, or whatever aversive influence was used for initial force fetch. It's an aversive distraction. Initially the intent in it's use, is to distract the dog from fetching, to provide an opportunity to test the dog's response to ear pinch pressure in the face of a "real" refusal.

    By the time stick fetch is complete, the dog actually understands the stick pressure as forcing it to fetch.
    And that's the basis of forcing to a pile.

    I do not believe that you absolutely have to use a stick to accomplish the same things.
    You could use any other influential aversive that you could dream up. But, I believe that the stick is something that's easy to control, and easy for a dog to figure out.
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    Using a heeling stick from me starts at formal obedience. When it comes to enforcing the fetch, dog understands and is not surprise by your actions of using the heeling stick. Is it necessary...I guess that depends....

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    Most pros in the midwest do not. If the force program is done properly, they don't need it. Do a search on this topic. It's been discussed before.
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    We fetch game, tennis balls and bumpers. That's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Lietzau View Post
    We fetch game, tennis balls and bumpers. That's about it.
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    Stick fetch has nothing to do with fetching sticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeDog View Post
    ....Do a search on this topic. It's been discussed before.
    https://www.google.com/search?as_q=&...ts=&gws_rd=ssl
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    Stick and marble...

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    No I don't do stick fetch I don't do doubt T either. And I have never put a dog on a table to FF.

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    Thanks copterdoc, your search was much more productive than mine. After having started to attempt collar fetch, I completely see the point of stick fetch, but I don't really understand why some people don't seem to need it. Maybe people who are really good at FF in general don't need stick fetch, but people whose FF is not complete enough do?

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