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    How can you be anything but totally misguided, if you believe the POTUS has presented a viable spending bill for the next fiscal year. What a waste of trees...the huggers should be apoplectic...seeing those 20# 'documents' stacked up on the tables.

    And then to have the person stand at the podium and defend that monstrosity should shame even the most sycophantic follower in the nation.

    Here's one conservatives take on that pile of garbage:

    Rubio Rips Obama's Budget Busting as Missing 'Golden Opportunity'


    Monday, 14 Feb 2011 11:42 AM




    U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio lambasted President Barack Obama's budget proposal today, issuing the following statement:

    “Sadly, the president has missed a golden opportunity to have an adult conversation with the American people about the seriousness and urgency of our debt crisis. The president’s budget falls far short of tackling our national debt in a serious way. Although we face a $1.6 trillion deficit and a staggering national debt that exceeds $14 trillion, the president’s proposal would add $7.2 trillion of new debt over the next ten years. The fact that the president’s 10-year proposed ‘savings’ is less than this year’s budget deficit alone is proof that this is a budget that cannot be taken seriously.

    “While the president insists he will take the commendable step of vetoing earmarks, his silence on entitlement reform, the absence of meaningful spending cuts and his reliance on anti-competitive tax increases will cause more economic uncertainty, stifle job creation and keep America on a path towards a diminished future.

    “Today’s excruciating problems are the legacy of decades of profligate spending by both parties. We have a job-crushing debt because Washington has repeatedly postponed the tough decisions for someone else to deal with down the road. The American people have every reason to be disappointed by the president’s budget and by Washington politicians who either don’t understand the seriousness of our fiscal crisis, or who are simply not willing to confront this challenge head-on.”

    And then to hear the toady press spew concern over "cuts" at the social level, is just mind-boggling. I could care less where those cuts come from. There isn't ANY segment of that pie-chart that can't be cut 100 billion...waste alone could yield that much reduction.

    YO!!! My fellow conservatives in congress...JUST SWING THE AX, AND LOP OFF AT LEAST THAT MUCH, REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT COMES FROM.

    Of course it will take some onions to step to the plate and be accountable, but that's what you were sent there to do, so "GIT-R-DONE"!

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    I completely agree...... show some stones and get it done. I would love for society to have to adjust back to the old way of doing things..... we did it for hundreds of years....... imagine that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    How can you be anything but totally misguided, if you believe the POTUS has presented a viable spending bill for the next fiscal year. What a waste of trees...the huggers should be apoplectic...seeing those 20# 'documents' stacked up on the tables.

    And then to have the person stand at the podium and defend that monstrosity should shame even the most sycophantic follower in the nation.

    Here's one conservatives take on that pile of garbage:

    Rubio Rips Obama's Budget Busting as Missing 'Golden Opportunity'


    Monday, 14 Feb 2011 11:42 AM




    U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio lambasted President Barack Obama's budget proposal today, issuing the following statement:

    “Sadly, the president has missed a golden opportunity to have an adult conversation with the American people about the seriousness and urgency of our debt crisis. The president’s budget falls far short of tackling our national debt in a serious way. Although we face a $1.6 trillion deficit and a staggering national debt that exceeds $14 trillion, the president’s proposal would add $7.2 trillion of new debt over the next ten years.

    Of course it will take some onions to step to the plate and be accountable, but that's what you were sent there to do, so "GIT-R-DONE"!

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    $1.6 Tril = $5,333 each including the wino's on skid row

    $7.2 Trillion = $24,000 each Again including those unable to pay. Interest @ 6% (which will look good shortly) $1,440 per year or $120 a month & what are we getting for that - very little.
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    "The House formally began debate, which is expected to last three days, Tuesday afternoon following some wrangling over the hundreds of amendments lawmakers want to attach to the package. More than 400 amendments were filed Monday night. Among them were a proposal from Rep. Steve Womack, R-Ark., to eliminate funding for the president's Teleprompter and one from Rep. Randy Neugebauer, R-Texas, to strip funding for the alteration, repair or improvement of the executive residence of the White House and instead divert that amount to deficit reduction.

    Womack told Fox News Tuesday afternoon that he pulled his amendment because he wasn't able to get an estimate on how much it would save.

    "I think we made our point," Womack said. "We're asking people to do more with less. And I think the president ought to lead by example. He is already a very gifted speaker. And I think that's one platform he could do without."

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    That's funny stuff, RK...

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    they sound like a couple of really bright boys........

    since i've been a shipbuilder all my adult life, let me give everyone an analogy:

    there's a 10" diameter hole in the hull below the waterline, the bilge pumps have mechanical and electrical problems that are preventing them from working at capacity, the nearest port is miles away, and these 2 idiots are polishing the ship's bell topside!

    posturing blowhards- just what our country needs.....-Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    "The House formally began debate, which is expected to last three days, Tuesday afternoon following some wrangling over the hundreds of amendments lawmakers want to attach to the package. More than 400 amendments were filed Monday night. Among them were a proposal from Rep. Steve Womack, R-Ark., to eliminate funding for the president's Teleprompter and one from Rep. Randy Neugebauer, R-Texas, to strip funding for the alteration, repair or improvement of the executive residence of the White House and instead divert that amount to deficit reduction.

    Womack told Fox News Tuesday afternoon that he pulled his amendment because he wasn't able to get an estimate on how much it would save.

    "I think we made our point," Womack said. "We're asking people to do more with less. And I think the president ought to lead by example. He is already a very gifted speaker. And I think that's one platform he could do without."

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    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Why don't these "bright" republicans come up with some real ideas like cutting Congress pay in half or eliminating their health care benefits and pay their own health insurance.

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    IRS wants 1500 more employees to go after tax exempt hospitals....and 81 agents to go after tanning salons......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    Why don't these "bright" republicans come up with some real ideas like cutting Congress pay in half or eliminating their health care benefits and pay their own health insurance.
    Surly you jest.

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    Here's another view of Obama's pathetic budget joke. UB

    Obama Mocks With His Budget Cuts
    Tuesday, 15 Feb 2011 07:38 AM



    By David Limbaugh
    It's pretty hard to stomach when President Barack Obama even talks in terms of cutting the deficit, because his entire economic philosophy compels him to keep spending as if his goal were to impoverish our children and because he continues, in fact, to spend at such bankrupting levels.

    Reuters reports that Obama's proposed budget would cut the deficit by $1.1 trillion over 10 years.

    Are you kidding me?

    We wouldn't even come close to balancing the budget if we applied all those cuts in one year, but spread out over 10 years, they are insulting. Plus, many of these "cuts" would be solely the result of bringing troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan.

    We also learned that Obama's deficit for 2011 would not be the outrageously obscene $1.5 trillion the Congressional Budget Office revealed last month, which was already substantially above last year's $1.3 trillion, but a staggering $1.65 trillion.

    With their signature audacity and cynicism, White House officials dubbed the administration's 10-year plan a "down payment" on future deficit reduction.

    I'm not sure that even George Orwell could wrap his arms around such sophistry. To call an enormous increase in an already gargantuan budget deficit a "down payment" on anything (other than this nation's imminent financial ruin) does violence to the English language.

    The administration would have us believe that its enormous deficits are the new base line and that as long as we keep deficits at, say, $1 trillion, we are moving toward balancing the budget — wholly ignoring that our national debt would be increasing by $1 trillion every year.

    You don't make progress toward balancing the budget by deliberately jacking up federal discretionary spending to unprecedented levels and then locking in those unsustainable figures with a spending freeze.

    You don't decrease deficits by first increasing them, and you can never make headway on reducing the national debt until you eliminate deficits altogether.

    Putting aside the deceit in the term "down payment," what is with the administration's idea that we need to ease into fiscally responsible behavior?

    How can Obama and company pat themselves on the back for their perpetual deferrals of real budget cuts in exchange for endless empty promises that we're really going to get serious about this next year or the one after that?

    The ugly truth is that they aren't serious about it, because, in addition to their paltry proposed cuts in discretionary spending, they're not even pretending to tackle the entitlement crisis, which is where the real fiscal problem lies, as everyone knows.

    But get this: Despite these new horrifying budget projections, Obama's budget director, Jacob Lew, said on CNBC Monday morning, "Our budget also reduces the deficit. We've accomplished the goal which the commission set out to accomplish." Well, that must be news to Erskine Bowles, who heads that commission.

    According to the Senate Budget Committee's ranking member, Jeff Sessions, Bowles said that the president's budget would come nowhere close to avoiding this fiscal crisis the nation is facing. Sessions said, "The president has not told us the truth."

    Unfazed, Lew insists that Obama's budget would make a real difference and involve real sacrifice. "What I would tell you about this budget is it has a lot of pain." Pain? The only pain this budget could possibly cause is that to future generations of Americans.

    Does that ever count for anything with these people?

    When pressed about the administration's utter failure to address entitlements, Lew unapologetically said that it would be pointless to tackle them without bipartisan action. Come on.

    You can't possibly have bipartisan action on entitlements when Democrats have no intention of reforming them.

    Meanwhile, President Obama says he's leading us toward "winning the future." How, you might ask? Well, he told a group of middle-school children in Maryland that the only way we can win the future is to make sure "that every American is equipped to compete with any worker, anywhere in the world." And the only way to do that "is if our government starts living within its means, if we start taking responsibility for our deficits."

    So, let's make sure we understand him correctly. The only way we can win the future is if we balance the budget, yet he is barely committed even to appreciably reducing our current levels of bankrupting deficits, much less tackling the far greater problem of entitlements.

    In other words, using his own metric, he's thrown in the towel on "winning the future," even while making it his 2012 re-election slogan. And people wonder why some speculate as to whether he's wreaking this havoc on purpose.

    All of this underscores just how imperative it is that Republicans seize this moment. There's no time to haggle over what $100 billion in cuts would mean or to delay getting behind entitlement restructuring, such as the plan envisioned by Rep. Paul Ryan in "A Roadmap for America's Future" or one similarly serious.
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