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    From the National Review 2-21-11 article "Pigford's Harvest":

    In the early 90's Timothy Pigford drew up a lawsuit against the USDA claiming discriminatory treatment in his ability to get financing to allow him to increase the size of his operation. After much work on his part it was taken on by an attorney who managed to win a class action settlement for up to 2500 farmers, which was eventually won by plaintiff. As the Clinton Administration was anxious to grease the skids for Algore they settled & the legislation was pushed through by Newt Gingrich.

    The Pigford Class - those eligible for settlement - originally was defined as:

    All African American farmers who (1) farmed between 1-1-1983 & 2-1-1997 & (2) applied, during that time period, for participation in a federal farm program with USDA, & as a direct result of determination by USDA in response to said application, believed they were discrimated against on the basis of race, & filed a written discrimination complaint with USDA in that time period.

    Both sides acknowledged the class size wasn't likely to exceed 2,500. With scant evidence one was allowed to collect a virtually automatic cash payment of $50,000.

    But then entered the "attempted to farm" class which started pouring in & the number of claimants is at 100,000 , while a 1997 census only found 18,500 black farmers with a liberal extimate that no more than 33,000 existed in the time frame indicated.

    One of the claimants along with her husband was Shirley Sherrod (that one) who along with her husband collected $13,000,000 just 3 days after her name became famous.

    Somewhere along the way Andrew Breitbart became interested in the feeding frenzy. His contention is most claims were frivolous at best & fraudulent at worst. A MS couple murdered a guy they thought might testify in their fraudulent claim case & are now spending life in the Xbar hotel. The FBI figures that 1/2 the claims at the minimum are fraudulent but do not want to prosecute for fear of being tagged with the "racist" label. The USDA has turned a blind eye to the the issue. One USDA employee told Breitbart: we saw claims from affluent areas , Palm Beach & Palm Springs, one applicant claimed the Chicago office discriminated against him when they had never had a Chicago office. He called Pigford the biggest scam against the American taxpayer in the history of the US.

    The enabling legislation was running out, there were a lot of claimants on the rolls so in 2007 the junior senator from IL, on his own added an amendment to a bill called the "Pigford Claims Remedy Act" which added $1.25 bill to the pot with an additional 10 years to climb on the gravy train. Last December the POTUS heralded Pigford II as the close of a long & unfortunate chapter in our history.

    So progressives, what say you? It looks like you own this one bigtime .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    From the National Review 2-21-11 article "Pigford's Harvest":

    In the early 90's Timothy Pigford drew up a lawsuit against the USDA claiming discriminatory treatment in his ability to get financing to allow him to increase the size of his operation. After much work on his part it was taken on by an attorney who managed to win a class action settlement for up to 2500 farmers, which was eventually won by plaintiff. As the Clinton Administration was anxious to grease the skids for Algore they settled & the legislation was pushed through by Newt Gingrich.

    The Pigford Class - those eligible for settlement - originally was defined as:

    All African American farmers who (1) farmed between 1-1-1983 & 2-1-1997 & (2) applied, during that time period, for participation in a federal farm program with USDA, & as a direct result of determination by USDA in response to said application, believed they were discrimated against on the basis of race, & filed a written discrimination complaint with USDA in that time period.

    Both sides acknowledged the class size wasn't likely to exceed 2,500. With scant evidence one was allowed to collect a virtually automatic cash payment of $50,000.

    But then entered the "attempted to farm" class which started pouring in & the number of claimants is at 100,000 , while a 1997 census only found 18,500 black farmers with a liberal extimate that no more than 33,000 existed in the time frame indicated.

    One of the claimants along with her husband was Shirley Sherrod (that one) who along with her husband collected $13,000,000 just 3 days after her name became famous.

    Somewhere along the way Andrew Breitbart became interested in the feeding frenzy. His contention is most claims were frivolous at best & fraudulent at worst. A MS couple murdered a guy they thought might testify in their fraudulent claim case & are now spending life in the Xbar hotel. The FBI figures that 1/2 the claims at the minimum are fraudulent but do not want to prosecute for fear of being tagged with the "racist" label. The USDA has turned a blind eye to the the issue. One USDA employee told Breitbart: we saw claims from affluent areas , Palm Beach & Palm Springs, one applicant claimed the Chicago office discriminated against him when they had never had a Chicago office. He called Pigford the biggest scam against the American taxpayer in the history of the US.

    The enabling legislation was running out, there were a lot of claimants on the rolls so in 2007 the junior senator from IL, on his own added an amendment to a bill called the "Pigford Claims Remedy Act" which added $1.25 bill to the pot with an additional 10 years to climb on the gravy train. Last December the POTUS heralded Pigford II as the close of a long & unfortunate chapter in our history.

    So progressives, what say you? It looks like you own this one bigtime .


    You, my dear friend, are dilusional if you think for a minute the reigning head of this oligarchy is going to be blamed for anything this obvious.

    I could care less if the world calls me racial, what is this fiasco but pure something-for-nothing-blacks wanting to rip off their nations taxpayers.

    Want something else racial, Marvin? Come back to Sodak, and get involved in the Native Americans attempts at re-claiming the entire Black Hills...OR, of course, gazillions of $$$$ to offset their hurt feelings etc.

    There is no answers to these type of claims, and the ludicrous time it takes to get them settled. It's all in the hands of lawyers. Why should they have any reason to hurry, since by the time any of these claims are settled, the attorneys will have poketed the 'slush fund' proceeds, so "surprise", we need to go after Joe Taxpayer again.

    When will this country get past all the PC malarkey, and return to saying it like it is. Enough is enough. Look at the joke the airline industry has become because we cannot do ANY profiling. What fiasco. Wonder how many like me have just given up on any form of flying. When I had to remove my shoes and walk the serpentine in stocking feet in Memphis, that was my final plane ride.

    WAKE UP AMERICA. DON'T YOU SEE WHAT THE HAVE-NOTHING BULLSHIT PEDDLERS ARE FOISTING ON THIS NATION???

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    I would be careful about posting anything with Andrew Breitbart’s name attached to it. Without even doing any research, I see inaccuracies and mis-representations in this story.

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    IMO--- probably one of the biggest mistakes by government in modern history to go basically ignored by the general public and media...... This should have come out during his election...... hmmmmmm........ What a joke our government has become....... freakin comical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    I would be careful about posting anything with Andrew Breitbart’s name attached to it. Without even doing any research, I see inaccuracies and mis-representations in this story.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    From the National Review 2-21-11 article "Pigford's Harvest":
    Ya gotta do better than that - NR is highly respected. I don't waste the effort of a post that is gossip. The reference to Breitbart is only in passing . This is serious stuff & if I may repeat myself, the progressives Own it.

    Possibly someone more computer literate than I can post the link.
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    Marvin, you said that is from NR 2-21-11, but today is 2-16-11... Looking at the wrong line on the calendar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    Marvin, you said that is from NR 2-21-11, but today is 2-16-11... Looking at the wrong line on the calendar?
    Nope, that's the issue as mags usually deliver ahead. Fortunately I can still read the calendar as the big eightzero happens Friday .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    Nope, that's the issue as mags usually deliver ahead. Fortunately I can still read the calendar as the big eightzero happens Friday .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    Nope, that's the issue as mags usually deliver ahead. Fortunately I can still read the calendar as the big eightzero happens Friday .

    No way! Really? Congrats!! Sure beats the hell out of the alternative...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Holy Crap!

    Happy Birthday! And I mean that.

    Just for fun, when you were born:

    The Star Spangled Banner was made the official National Anthem

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    They had cars then??
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