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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Hmmmm. More personal attacks. On my wearing of the uniform as well.Constant reminding us of your "service" to the country while no one else seems to find the need.
    Really, I'd prefer a simple "thank you", rather than the insults. You apparently need a pat on the back.

    And if you think I would do anything akin to burning the US flag, just try doing it in front of me and see what happens! Don't think anyone believes you would do that

    BTW, I will point out things when I think they are bad for this country. You have NOT heard me ever refer to Bush as "Dumbya" or other derogatory names. YOUR side constantly refers to Obama as "obumma" "bumface" "obongo" etc.... Our side? What side would that be? I've never done it. In fact only a couple here have done it.

    THAT type of disgracing of the President is more aking to descecrating a symbol of this nation (ie flag burning) that stating one's opposition to policy.I guess it's OK to blast a past President if you don't care for him. You just can't handle it when your man's flaws are pointed out, And you can??[/B][/COLOR] and thus resort to personal attacks upon people, their profession, and even stoop so low as to attack a fellow veteran's service! That's pretty sad, Bill.
    Thank you, thank you , thank you for pointing out your service. Again. And again. You are apparently the only one on this board who served their country. Oh, and thank you for only blasting a past president. I guess that's OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
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    You leaving?? Promises, promises, promises...

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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    Thank you, thank you , thank you for pointing out your service. Again. And again. You are apparently the only one on this board who served their country. Oh, and thank you for only blasting a past president. I guess that's OK.
    You're pathetic.
    You haven't heard me EVER make disparaging remarks about other's military service....not even those who routinely do so themselves.

    Its a matter of pride. You may or may not understand, I have no idea of what your background is, and again, nor do I care.

    And just to set you straight....it was BILL who brought up my service....NOT ME....in the form of an insult of me wearing my uniform as a "costume". Once again, you are spewing substantively empty, factually inaccurate accusations......you're batting .1000!

    But thank you for commenting. It once again shows you have nothing meaningful to contribute to this thread.

    And no, I'm not going away. How would you feed your fetish if you didn't have me to insult with baseless claims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandyg View Post
    In 1976, President Gerald R. Ford issued Executive Order 11905 to clarify U.S. foreign-intelligence activities. In a section of the order labeled "Restrictions on Intelligence Activities," Ford concisely but explicitly outlawed political assassination:
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    So it is all right to kill and maim hundreds of thousands innocent men, women and childres and bomb their Country back into the 18th Century but it is not ok to go after the one person who was the target of the war to begin with? Wasn't there a wanted dead or alive order out for Saddam?

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    Since you wrote that you're just a rodeo clown seeking mostly just to rile people up I've been doing an excellent job of ignoring your blather. I started to respond to your earlier post of you repeating the lie that the US supplied WMDs to Iraq (some pesticides made by US companies were used by Hussein in his chemical weapons...a far cry "the US supplied WMDs" nonsense), but stopped myself. But after reading the rubbish below I can't help myself. You win, congrats:

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    First off UB, the congress men and women were duped by the Bush Administration into believing WMDs existed. LOL. Pssst....this is a thread YOU started about the supposed source of WMD intel in Iraq lying to everyone. If the source lied to the Bush Admin then the Bush Admin no more "duped" Congress than you repeating someone else's lie makes you a liar...like your whoppers about the US supplying WMDs to Iraq or that only 7k Kurds were killed by Saddam. Second, The majority of the UN did not believe there WMDs because they did not back the U.S. when it went to war with Iraq. No, there was never a vote on whether a majority of the UN nations believed that Iraq had WMDs. The votes were on whether to use force in Iraq to enforce their previous mandates. Most of the world's leaders felt that Iraq had WMDs (which is exactly what Saddam wanted them to think).Third, there were not millions of Kurds that were killed but 5 to 7 thousand and those numbers pale in comparison to the number of innocent men women and childern that were killed or wounded since 2003. Which are you...a shill for Saddam Hussein or someone too lazy to bother fact checking your own buffoonery on Wikipedia? 5 to 7 thousand was closer to the number of Kurd villages that were razed by Saddam; not the number of Kurds killed (which were well over 100k by other non-Roger Perry sources). Also, just for clarification, Americans killed/wounded relatively few Iraqi citizens...most were killed/wounded by their fellow countrymen/Islamists. You can make the argument that we are tangentially responsible because we invaded Iraq, but using that same logic you could also claim that Saddam was responsible since his actions/belligerance caused us to invade in the first place.

    If the U.S. wanted Saddam out of the way, they could have sent in a hit squad to take him out which would have saved thousands upon thousands of lives and billions and billions of dollars. LMAO (as that sentence doesn't deserve anything more than that)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hew View Post
    Since you wrote that you're just a rodeo clown seeking mostly just to rile people up I've been doing an excellent job of ignoring your blather. I started to respond to your earlier post of you repeating the lie that the US supplied WMDs to Iraq (some pesticides made by US companies were used by Hussein in his chemical weapons...a far cry "the US supplied WMDs" nonsense), but stopped myself. But after reading the rubbish below I can't help myself. You win, congrats:
    Well Hew, here are some facts to back up my statement that the U.S. supplied WMD to Iraq. Prove me wrong!



    How Did Iraq Get Its Weapons? We Sold Them

    by Neil Mackay and Felicity Arbuthnot

    Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US, under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr, sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene.

    Is Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld an evildoer? If not, then what is he doing shaking hands with Saddam Hussein?


    http://hnn.us/articles/1283.html

    Here is another link.
    http://www.fff.org/comment/com0406g.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    But thank you for commenting. It once again shows you have nothing meaningful to contribute to this thread.
    And this little pissing contest that has gone on for pages contributes meaningfully to the thread how? Take it to PMs or get over it....

    For the record, I too think UB was out of line with the uniform comment...but take it to PM's rather than soiling (RK) another thread with a personal argument.

    This crap is getting so old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducknwork View Post
    And this little pissing contest that has gone on for pages contributes meaningfully to the thread how? Take it to PMs or get over it....

    For the record, I too think UB was out of line with the uniform comment...but take it to PM's rather than soiling (RK) another thread with a personal argument.

    This crap is getting so old.

    Thought the 'conservatives' on board would understand my comments, but apparently they only read what I said as a slam on a fellow soldier...which I will now make indelibly clear for all.

    When you rail against the US objective in Iraq as much as DNF does, how can he then consider the rest of us to believe he is supportive of our nation? Oh sure, he was in the service...begrudgingly...and no doubt poor-mouthing it all the while he got his internship years out of the way. (N0 I wasn't in the medical Army, but I had friends there that were doing it for that reason. Seemed reasonable to me)

    So if you are full of animosity for your Commander in Chief, how can that relate to making us believe you were an American in combat, supporting the American way of life? It must have been a miserable existance for DNF to wear a uni for a country, headed up by GWB as CIC, who he was holding in contempt.

    Subsequently, my observation was he wasn't placing any more respect for his uniform than it being a 'costume' he was required to wear. As much disdain as he holds for the leadership and administration he served under, how could he have any pride in his uniform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    Subsequently, my observation was he wasn't placing any more respect for his uniform than it being a 'costume' he was required to wear. As much disdain as he holds for the leadership and administration he served under, how could he have any pride in his uniform?
    I am not going to get into this with you, but do you feel the same way about current service members who dislike Obama and his administration?

    I just think that you are making a lot of assumptions and big jumps based on things you have read and deduced on an internet forum. To make a disrespectful statement like you did, you really need more than that to back it up.

    If you knew for a fact that what you described about dnf is true, then I could see where your statement would make sense and *possibly* be called for. But until you know it as cold, hard truth, you should just remember the saying about not having something nice to say...

    I did not serve in the military and I have much respect for anyone who has/does serve(d) honorably. As far as we know, dnf did just that. In this circumstance, your comment should piss off anyone who has ever worn a uniform for the United States of America. After all, they have all fought for his right to disagree with our government.

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