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    Interesting story breaking on the Mayor of Madison WI and the Senate Minority leader and their little plan.
    The e-mail thread is exposed and goes into great detail.

    This is breaking right now and will expose these "Flee Bags" for what they are.

    Union puppets!!!
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    WITI-TV, MADISON —
    Before protesters stormed the capitol, the mayor of the city of Madison tried to pull a fast one. The governor's budget repair bill was on the fast track, and Madison Mayor Dave Ciesliewicz was racing against the clock to pass new union contracts first.

    E-mails obtained by the FOX6 Investigators show that the mayor enlisted the help of State Senator Mark Miller. They both tried to convince the Secretary of State to hold up the bill by taking the maximum 10 days allowed by law before publishing the bill.

    They were trying to buy some time so they could ratify new contracts to protect workers from benefit cuts. Citizens for Responsible Government Rep. Chris Kliesmet says, "This suggests, and this is a harsh word, collusion. There is collusion between some politicians and public sector employee unions. Period."


    Kliesmet says collective bargaining require that there be two sides. It is impossible to have collective bargaining with only one side."

    Mayor Ciesliewicz says, "We ARE on the same side." The mayor admits they rushed contracts, but says the city negotiated in good faith. "That's the way collective bargaining works. It ought to be a negotiation, but at the end of the day we want to have good working relationships between labor and management here in Madison."

    According to the e-mails, Secretary of State Doug La Follette declined to delay publication of the law, but it all became a moot point when Senator Democrats fled the state to block the bill.

    Read the e-mails between Senate Minority Leader Mike Miller and Madison Mayor Dave Ciesliewicz. It appears the 14 Senators orchestrated their trip to Illinois to buy time for unions all over the state to work out new deals.

    State Senator Mark Miller has yet to comment on this story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Interesting story breaking on the Mayor of Madison WI and the Senate Minority leader and their little plan.
    The e-mail thread is exposed and goes into great detail.

    This is breaking right now and will expose these "Flee Bags" for what they are.

    Union puppets!!!
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    WITI-TV, MADISON
    Before protesters stormed the capitol, the mayor of the city of Madison tried to pull a fast one. The governor's budget repair bill was on the fast track, and Madison Mayor Dave Ciesliewicz was racing against the clock to pass new union contracts first.

    E-mails obtained by the FOX6 Investigators show that the mayor enlisted the help of State Senator Mark Miller. They both tried to convince the Secretary of State to hold up the bill by taking the maximum 10 days allowed by law before publishing the bill.

    They were trying to buy some time so they could ratify new contracts to protect workers from benefit cuts. Citizens for Responsible Government Rep. Chris Kliesmet says, "This suggests, and this is a harsh word, collusion. There is collusion between some politicians and public sector employee unions. Period."


    Kliesmet says collective bargaining require that there be two sides. It is impossible to have collective bargaining with only one side."

    Mayor Ciesliewicz says, "We ARE on the same side." The mayor admits they rushed contracts, but says the city negotiated in good faith. "That's the way collective bargaining works. It ought to be a negotiation, but at the end of the day we want to have good working relationships between labor and management here in Madison."

    According to the e-mails, Secretary of State Doug La Follette declined to delay publication of the law, but it all became a moot point when Senator Democrats fled the state to block the bill.

    Read the e-mails between Senate Minority Leader Mike Miller and Madison Mayor Dave Ciesliewicz. It appears the 14 Senators orchestrated their trip to Illinois to buy time for unions all over the state to work out new deals.

    State Senator Mark Miller has yet to comment on this story.
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    Capitol Chaos: Senate Moves To Bring 'Wisconsin 14' Back, Possibly By Force
    By Jay Sorgi with the Associated Press
    Story Created: Mar 3, 2011



    MADISON - The Wisconsin State Senate has approved a resolution that would set a deadline of 4:00 p.m. Thursday for Wisconsin's 14 Democratic state senators to return to Senate chambers.

    If they do not, they would be held guilty in contempt of the Senate.

    They would also be guilty of disorderly conduct.

    TODAY"S TMJ4's Mick Trevey says law enforcement could go out with a warrant and detain them, possibly with the use of force.


    According to Trevey, senators could be picked up, held against their will, chained and brought back to Senate chambers to vote on Governor Scott Walker's budget repair bill.

    But according to one Democratic senator, Middleton's Jon Erpenbach, he's not coming back despite the resolution, and he doesn't believe his colleagues would, either.

    "We hand them over ideas, and they come back us with handcuffs," said Erpenbach to Newsradio 620 WTMJ.

    His colleague, Milwaukee Democratic Representative Chris Larson tweeted, "Senate Republicans have officially gone 'round the bend. Next up, dropping puppies from the top of the Capitol onto protesters."

    According to the resolution, law enforcement could work with other legal methods to use force to get a Senator back to Wisconsin. As of early Thursday afternoon, there was no authorization for law enforcement to go to other states.

    Only one senator is necessary in order to bring the Senate to a quorum for a vote, which would probably pass against Democrats' wishes.

    There was some belief that at least one of the Democratic state senators was returning inside the state on some sort of basis.

    Trevey said that here was hope among Republicans that Democrats would voluntarily return to the state, which was why this method was not previously used.

    Republican Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald says the action is legally different from an arrest, but "definitely a shift from asking them politely."
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckheads View Post
    Some people get drunk on the cool aid!
    And they shut up when confronted with the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Capitol Chaos: Senate Moves To Bring 'Wisconsin 14' Back, Possibly By Force
    By Jay Sorgi with the Associated Press
    Story Created: Mar 3, 2011



    MADISON - The Wisconsin State Senate has approved a resolution that would set a deadline of 4:00 p.m. Thursday for Wisconsin's 14 Democratic state senators to return to Senate chambers.

    If they do not, they would be held guilty in contempt of the Senate.

    They would also be guilty of disorderly conduct.

    TODAY"S TMJ4's Mick Trevey says law enforcement could go out with a warrant and detain them, possibly with the use of force.


    According to Trevey, senators could be picked up, held against their will, chained and brought back to Senate chambers to vote on Governor Scott Walker's budget repair bill.

    But according to one Democratic senator, Middleton's Jon Erpenbach, he's not coming back despite the resolution, and he doesn't believe his colleagues would, either.

    "We hand them over ideas, and they come back us with handcuffs," said Erpenbach to Newsradio 620 WTMJ.

    His colleague, Milwaukee Democratic Representative Chris Larson tweeted, "Senate Republicans have officially gone 'round the bend. Next up, dropping puppies from the top of the Capitol onto protesters."

    According to the resolution, law enforcement could work with other legal methods to use force to get a Senator back to Wisconsin. As of early Thursday afternoon, there was no authorization for law enforcement to go to other states.

    Only one senator is necessary in order to bring the Senate to a quorum for a vote, which would probably pass against Democrats' wishes.

    There was some belief that at least one of the Democratic state senators was returning inside the state on some sort of basis.

    Trevey said that here was hope among Republicans that Democrats would voluntarily return to the state, which was why this method was not previously used.

    Republican Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald says the action is legally different from an arrest, but "definitely a shift from asking them politely."
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    They are doing the bidding of the union.


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    Looks like this whole thing is blowing up in the governor's face. He had no idea what he was stirring up! His own police and firemen had to be locked out of the capitol, as to not interfere with the lobbyists that he had ushered in! Sad.

    Polls show Wisconsinites are overwhelmingly turning against what he's trying to do. (60+%) I think the key to his un-doing is that he thought he was just dealing with a few union members.....when in fact, it was an attack on the American middle class family and our way of life.....the standard of living.

    Staying tuned....
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    One way to get the hiding Democrat State Senators back is by suspending their healthcare and pension. Call it Dereliction of Duty, Failure To Perfrom Sworn Duty....whatever.

    This situation is critical to reforming state governments!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    One way to get the hiding Democrat State Senators back is by suspending their healthcare and pension. Call it Dereliction of Duty, Failure To Perfrom Sworn Duty....whatever.

    This situation is critical to reforming state governments!
    "Hiding",,, Drink the Coolaid and put you spin on it but they are on every TV station. So Hiding,,, Really?

    IMO, Their job is to represent , not do as Walker tells (or Dictates) them to do.

    The bottom line is that they have the concessions to balance the budget. Walker wont bend because he wants to Break the unions at any level. Why? To bleed any funding to the Democratic Party, its really that simple..

    For some reason my wife and I have surrounded ourselves with friends that are Fire Fighters, Teachers and Cops. It amazes me what Teachers spend in educating themselves to make what I think is a modest living. Are the Benny's good? In most cases,,,, Hell Yea, but what they have into their education they might as well went into the medical field. So right now some districts want to extend the school year 30 days so there will only be a 45 day summer break and looking into dumping the higher educated teachers (because they have higher pay) to bring in teachers at a lower level of education. Will it really cost less??????????

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    Damn Stan, didnt Realize you were such a Union Hater.

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    Judge orders protesters out of Wisconsin Capitol


    Published: Thursday, 3 Mar 2011 | 8:50 PM ET

    MADISON, Wis. - A Wisconsin judge has ordered pro-union protesters to be removed from the state Capitol.


    Dane County Circuit Judge John Albert ruled Thursday night that protesters remaining in the building should be immediately removed — along with any unauthorized materials such as sleeping bags and signs taped to the Capitol walls.
    The judge also ruled that the state violated constitutional protections for free speech and assembly by restricting access to the building. He ordered the administration to re-open the building to the general public by 8 a.m. Monday, allowing for a permitting process limiting the times and places where rallies can be held.
    The demonstrators have been rallying against a proposal by Gov. Scott Walker to eliminate nearly all collective bargaining rights for most public employee unions.
    Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


    The capital interior is absolutely beautiful. If you're ever in Madison it's worth the time to take a tour. It takes about an hour and you go into and get to sit in the senate and house chairs, and the gov. conference room. Go at Christmas time to see a magnificent tree. On the capital square are great shops and restaurants. The WI Historical Society and WI Veterans Museum aren't to be missed!

    It breaks my heart to see the trash (both people and garbage) that litter the interior now. The sooner they throw out the rabble rousers the better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandyg View Post
    Judge orders protesters out of Wisconsin Capitol


    Published: Thursday, 3 Mar 2011 | 8:50 PM ET

    MADISON, Wis. - A Wisconsin judge has ordered pro-union protesters to be removed from the state Capitol.


    Dane County Circuit Judge John Albert ruled Thursday night that protesters remaining in the building should be immediately removed along with any unauthorized materials such as sleeping bags and signs taped to the Capitol walls.
    The judge also ruled that the state violated constitutional protections for free speech and assembly by restricting access to the building. He ordered the administration to re-open the building to the general public by 8 a.m. Monday, allowing for a permitting process limiting the times and places where rallies can be held.
    The demonstrators have been rallying against a proposal by Gov. Scott Walker to eliminate nearly all collective bargaining rights for most public employee unions.
    Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


    The capital interior is absolutely beautiful. If you're ever in Madison it's worth the time to take a tour. It takes about an hour and you go into and get to sit in the senate and house chairs, and the gov. conference room. Go at Christmas time to see a magnificent tree. On the capital square are great shops and restaurants. The WI Historical Society and WI Veterans Museum aren't to be missed!

    It breaks my heart to see the trash (both people and garbage) that litter the interior now. The sooner they throw out the rabble rousers the better!
    Yep. Hard working Americans who teach our kids, maintain peace and order on the streets, and put out fires and rescue people are all "trash". Yeah, we gotta get that "trash" out of the way, to make room for the corporate lobbyists to have unfettered access to our elected representatives and governor. After all, they're there to serve the billionaires, not the middle-class "trash".
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