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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Or Bush's record number of recess appointments.
    Got link?

    Also, I would think that an independent-minded fellow like yourself would want to note that at this point in his presidency Obama has surpassed Bush's number of recess appointments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Zogby Interactive: Majorities Say States Can Cut Employee Salaries & Void Collective Bargaining Agreements



    UTICA, New York - Two-thirds of likely voters agree that state legislatures have the authority to cut state employee salaries and 52% agree they can void collective bargaining agreements to reduce spending.

    Voiding collective bargaining agreements is also seen as preferable to continuing to pay state employees at current levels or layoffs of state workers in order to reduce spending and control deficits.

    These results come from a Zogby Interactive poll conducted from Feb. 18-21, 2011.
    Do you agree or disagree with State legislatures having the authority to cut state employee salaries in an effort to reduce spending?
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    Democrats
    Republicans
    Independents

    Agree
    67%
    44%
    88%
    71%

    Disagree
    31%
    53%
    9%
    29%

    Not Sure
    3%
    4%
    4%
    1%

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    Zogby polls are not scientific and questions have been raised about their reliability. I'm going to stay with the USA Today/Gallup Poll. They have a proven track record.

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200711280004

    This is not about just reducing spending. It's about breaking the union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    This is not about just reducing spending. It's about breaking the union.
    So, that's bad? Our utility bill over 10 years has risen 287.5%. The COE's are a city monopoly! No infrastructure improvements so most has gone to? Wage increases to city employees! When you talk to them about that - Oh, they could do better in the private sector!!!!! BS, Scott Walker has a great & I wish him success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    What do you mean "follow"? I don't understand the question.

    Considering the source, I can only assume its another personal attack upon my profession? I apologize if I'm wrong, and will try to answer what I think you're asking.

    I can tell you that NOBODY pays over 60% of what I bill. We have one company that is union, and they do have nice coverage. I think they're only one who pays over half of what we charge. The largest empoloyer in this area is the health care industry, non union. The largest payor altogether is medicare/medicade.
    That tells me you charge in excess of the "reasonable and customary fee" for your area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    That tells me you charge in excess of the "reasonable and customary fee" for your area.
    I won't argue with you. People feel entitled to free medical care, so no matter what we charge, it will fit your comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    Zogby polls are not scientific and questions have been raised about their reliability. I'm going to stay with the USA Today/Gallup Poll. They have a proven track record.

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200711280004

    This is not about just reducing spending. It's about breaking the union.
    By whom? Moveon, HuffPo & Blackstone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    Zogby polls are not scientific and questions have been raised about their reliability. I'm going to stay with the USA Today/Gallup Poll. They have a proven track record.

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200711280004

    This is not about just reducing spending. It's about breaking the union.
    Rasmussen??

    Rasmussen Poll: American Voters Support Wisconsin GOP Gov. Walker Over Unions by a 48% to 38% Margin

    Americans siding with Governor Walker over unions in Wisconsin …

    According to a recent Rasmussen poll, likely voters are siding with Governor Scott Walker over the Unions in Wisconsin by a 48% to 38% margin. Only 38% sided with the unions, which is a far cry from the image that the MSM is trying to show protesting in Madison, WI. Obviously Democrats are going to support the unions and did so in this survey with 68% of the vote, while Republicans, while 68% of Republicans sided with the governor. More importantly and telling, 58% of individuals not affiliated with either parity sided with Governor Walker. The winds of change are occuring in Wisconsin.

    A sizable number of voters are following new Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker’s showdown with unionized public employees in his state, and nearly half side with the governor.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters agree more with the Republican governor in his dispute with union workers. Thirty-eight percent (38%) agree more with the unionized public employees, while 14% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    As stated by Hot Air, the unions appear to be losing the national battle for the hearts and minds of the American people. We the People seem to be growing weary of union entitlements while private citizens must make sacrifices every day.


    The bigger questions is how will what is going on in Wisconsin and the people’s reaction to unions affect other cash strapped states like Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania and others? There is an even greater questions posed by Red State, did Barack Obama just make a mistake in Wisconsin that he will never be able to recover from? Because once again, Obama is on the wrong side of the people and the private sector is sick and tired of the public sector and political class.

    The Silvered, Fork-tongued One skates through electoral mayhem with the grace of Johnny Weir, but this time, he falls and fails badly. It will come back to haunt him.

    I refer to President Obama siding with the public sector unions across the country while the Governors, both Republican and Democrat, try to balance state budgets and ask the unions to make less-aggressive concessions than private sector employees have been making for years.

    All the talk of “tough choices” and shared sacrifice sounds incredibly empty and hollow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    I won't argue with you. People feel entitled to free medical care, so no matter what we charge, it will fit your comment.
    So you admit that you charge more for your services than others in the same profession and area for like procedures. Are you that much better than the average?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    So you admit that you charge more for your services than others in the same profession and area for like procedures. Are you that much better than the average?

    Just wondering regards,
    M&K I seldom agree with dnf777 on anything and nothing on government policy on healthcare but let me explain a little about healthcare fees. First, "usual and customary" is no longer the standard for services provided. The American Dental Assn. sued Aetna over the computation of the amount that they claimed was "usual and customary". Aetna claimed such information was priviledged and would not provide it resulting in the lawsuit. The suit was filed for the very reason that conclusions were drawn such as yours as to fees charged that were completely false and reflected on the doctor. Aetna never disclosed their method of computing "usual and customary" but chose instead to go to a schedule amount for each procedure that they would pay. Since then, I have neref seen an explanation of benefits that disallowed a portion of charges claiming that the charge was above the usual and customary. Ever since the time of the Carter Presidency, I have known that their computation of usual and customary was flawed. Metropolitan Ins. sent explanation of benefits stating that my fees were above the usual and customary. Strangely the usual and customary amount stated was the fee that I had charged the year before. In every case this held true during that time of high inflation. I knew then that there was no such thing as "usual and customary".

    Dentists being for the most part quite conservative and independant practice solo or in a relatively small group, 5 being a quite large group. Physicians on the contrary, especially specialists are in large groups for the most part and sadly are in groups with cross specialities. Most doctors in these groups really have little to say a to the fee they charge but relagete this to the manager of the group. I suspect most of them like it this way. I would not be surprised if dnf777 had little to do with the fees that were charged for the services he rendered. Don't know for a fact but would not be surprised.

    Having broken my foot a year ago, I was referred to an orthopedic surgeon. The bill wal almost $1000.00. The reimbursement was a little over $200.00. There are reasons that fees and reimbursement have come to this and those reasons in my opinion are due mainly due to the government.

    Dentists for the most part have told the Gov. not only no but HELL NO. I wish physicians had done the same and maybe we would not be in quite the mess we are in.

    If you have any questions that I can answer, I'll be glad to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    So you admit that you charge more for your services than others in the same profession and area for like procedures. Are you that much better than the average?

    Just wondering regards,
    My rectal cancer recurrence rates, wound infection rates, post op DVT rates, and ostomy rates are all below the national average. (below being GOOD!) So yes, I am better than average.

    I don't charge anything. My employer does. And its so damn complicated, I have no idea what they charge. All I know is at our monthly financial meetings, they show total billables, total reimbursements, and we usually hit around 28 cents collected for every dollar billed.
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