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    Smile Just maybe stem cells will help

    For those of you who oppose stem cell use here is news.
    Rats' mobility
    restored in CU
    spinal-cord study
    By Michael Booth
    The Denver Post

    Posted: 03/03/2011 01:00:00 AM MST

    Updated: 03/03/2011 10:35:14 AM MST

    Support cells strained from human stem cells and
    transplanted into paralyzed lab rats repair
    damaged nerve systems remarkably quickly and
    help the rats walk again, according to CU
    researchers, who say the experiments could
    extend to injured humans within two years.

    Working with University of Rochester scientists,
    University of Colorado School of Medicine
    researchers made "a huge step" in treating
    spinal-cord injuries, according to a paper
    published in the peer-reviewed online journal
    PLoS ONE.

    The rapid improvement in paralyzed rats has
    "very exciting" possibilities to repair other
    nervous-system damage from strokes, traumatic
    brain injury, and Parkinson's, Alzhei mer's and
    Lou Gehrig's diseases, said CU medical-school
    researcher Stephen Davies.
    "We were able to show that we could bring near-
    complete restor ation of normal movement,"
    Davies said.

    Previous studies have shown that isolating the
    same form of rat cells for transplant can bring
    improvements in rats, but the latest step
    advances to using human stem cells and an
    isolate called astrocytes, said lead study author
    Chris Proschel, assistant professor of genetics at
    the University of Rochester Medical Center.

    "What's really striking is the robustness of the
    effect," Proschel said. "Scientists have claimed
    repair of spinal-cord injuries in rats before, but
    the benefits have been variable and rarely as
    strong as what we've seen with our transplants."

    The research isolated cells called astrocytes
    from human stem cells. Previous experiments
    assumed less-refined stem cells could be
    transplanted with good results; the Colorado-
    Rochester experiments found that by turning the
    stem cells into the right form of astrocytes
    before transplant, improvements in the injured
    rats came much more quickly and reliably.

    The researchers will now branch out their testing
    on rats, implanting the isolated form of cell to
    target more severe and complex spinal-cord
    injuries. They also will pursue eventual clinical
    tests on injured humans, meanwhile trying to
    cultivate usable cells from adult or preapproved
    embryonic stem-cell lines.

    "Now the challenge is how rapidly can we
    translate these discoveries from the lab for use
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    Amazing and scary.

    Sinner, it will be in our lifetimes that we will use stem cell technology to grow pigs that are custom created for YOU and your medical needs. A transgenic pig will have kidneys, lungs, heart, pancreatic islet cells.....like a second junker sitting out by the barn to part out to your first car.

    Heart disease, renal failure/dialysis, diabetes, many forms of cancer....all will be treatable.

    But at what cost? Available to whom? And who's gonna pay?

    And who's gonna feed dem hogs?
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    As the parent of a 12 year old thats been diabetic since 3, whatever it takes. Absolutely whatever it takes. Hes been through enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinner View Post
    For those of you who oppose stem cell use here is news.
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    I am aware that some do oppose stem cells. I just can't understand why

    Is it simply the "slippery slope" argument carried to an extreme? Or is there something more to it that I'm missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinner View Post
    For those of you who oppose stem cell use here is news.
    Rats' mobility
    restored in CU
    spinal-cord study
    By Michael Booth
    The Denver Post

    Posted: 03/03/2011 01:00:00 AM MST

    Updated: 03/03/2011 10:35:14 AM MST

    Support cells strained from human stem cells and
    transplanted into paralyzed lab rats repair
    damaged nerve systems remarkably quickly and
    help the rats walk again, according to CU
    researchers, who say the experiments could
    extend to injured humans within two years.

    Working with University of Rochester scientists,
    University of Colorado School of Medicine
    researchers made "a huge step" in treating
    spinal-cord injuries, according to a paper
    published in the peer-reviewed online journal
    PLoS ONE.

    The rapid improvement in paralyzed rats has
    "very exciting" possibilities to repair other
    nervous-system damage from strokes, traumatic
    brain injury, and Parkinson's, Alzhei mer's and
    Lou Gehrig's diseases, said CU medical-school
    researcher Stephen Davies.
    "We were able to show that we could bring near-
    complete restor ation of normal movement,"
    Davies said.

    Previous studies have shown that isolating the
    same form of rat cells for transplant can bring
    improvements in rats, but the latest step
    advances to using human stem cells and an
    isolate called astrocytes, said lead study author
    Chris Proschel, assistant professor of genetics at
    the University of Rochester Medical Center.

    "What's really striking is the robustness of the
    effect," Proschel said. "Scientists have claimed
    repair of spinal-cord injuries in rats before, but
    the benefits have been variable and rarely as
    strong as what we've seen with our transplants."

    The research isolated cells called astrocytes
    from human stem cells. Previous experiments
    assumed less-refined stem cells could be
    transplanted with good results; the Colorado-
    Rochester experiments found that by turning the
    stem cells into the right form of astrocytes
    before transplant, improvements in the injured
    rats came much more quickly and reliably.

    The researchers will now branch out their testing
    on rats, implanting the isolated form of cell to
    target more severe and complex spinal-cord
    injuries. They also will pursue eventual clinical
    tests on injured humans, meanwhile trying to
    cultivate usable cells from adult or preapproved
    embryonic stem-cell lines.

    "Now the challenge is how rapidly can we
    translate these discoveries from the lab for use
    your thesis is flawed. there is little resistance to stem cell research. there is resistance to embryonic stem cell research.

    BTW, I believe former President George W. Bush is the first president to actually fund embryonic stem cell research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjh345 View Post
    I am aware that some do oppose stem cells. I just can't understand why

    Is it simply the "slippery slope" argument carried to an extreme? Or is there something more to it that I'm missing?
    Marc

    I think the resistance to embryonic stem cells comes from the extreme end of the anti-abortion crowd. They are afraid that women will get pregnant just in order to have a human embryo aborted in order to harvest (and sell) the stem cells.
    Personally, I think that there are more than enough "legal" abortions to supply huge amounts of embryonic stem cells.



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    Its right wing Christian extreme conservatism. Notice they're backing away from this pretty quickly, as they see the benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Its right wing Christian extreme conservatism. Notice they're backing away from this pretty quickly, as they see the benefits.
    Interesting that a physician would call doing no harm to a fetus "right wing Christian extreme conservatism". And there are PLENTY that are not backing away from it, but label it however you please, but just because it is an apposing view to yours does not make it "extreme."

    Your own statement about the potential future use of stem cells also should acknowledge the potential that there could indeed be better ways to harvest these potent cells than from the "fruit" of an abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxHillHunter View Post
    Interesting that a physician would call doing no harm to a fetus "right wing Christian extreme conservatism". And there are PLENTY that are not backing away from it, but label it however you please, but just because it is an apposing view to yours does not make it "extreme."

    Your own statement about the potential future use of stem cells also should acknowledge the potential that there could indeed be better ways to harvest these potent cells than from the "fruit" of an abortion.
    With the liberals losing the argument all over the country and especially at the polling booth, they are becoming more and more unhinged as referenced by DNF referring to everything he disagrees with as extreme. The libs are actually showing their true colors every day now. Can't wait for the next couple of election cycles to see them pop their eyeballs out just a little more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TxHillHunter View Post
    Interesting that a physician would call doing no harm to a fetus "right wing Christian extreme conservatism". And there are PLENTY that are not backing away from it, but label it however you please, but just because it is an apposing view to yours does not make it "extreme."

    Your own statement about the potential future use of stem cells also should acknowledge the potential that there could indeed be better ways to harvest these potent cells than from the "fruit" of an abortion.

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