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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Typical Liberal point of view.

    In Michigan we are seeing the typical conservative point of view in action. Cut taxes on business. Leave taxes on folks that high incomes alone. Hike taxes on retiree pensions and on the poor.

    Just can't make this stuff up. The republican legislature fought the previous Democratic Gov tooth and nail against any and I mean ANY increase in taxes to help close the deficit. Put a republican in there, done deal, as long as he leaves the wealthy alone.
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    I think cuts would be much better tolerated if people felt that the pain was being shared by ALL Americans, not just the working class. When you hear first business is to cut corporate taxes, then go after wages/benes of workers, people start to holler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    In Michigan we are seeing the typical conservative point of view in action. Cut taxes on business. Leave taxes on folks that high incomes alone. Hike taxes on retiree pensions and on the poor.

    Just can't make this stuff up. The republican legislature fought the previous Democratic Gov tooth and nail against any and I mean ANY increase in taxes to help close the deficit. Put a republican in there, done deal, as long as he leaves the wealthy alone.
    Michigan's economic problems are caused by the unions. Industry has fled the state and so have most of thier brightest and youngest because of the unions.

    Taxes are not the answer.
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    The problem with all these budget cuts. Well there are a few. First of all they're laying off teachers and firefighters. Ok yeah sure I suppose that Kind of helps spend less money. but you're getting rid of a valuable resource.

    If they would try having the teachers teach more students at less desks. Use less lighting and electric. Make janitors do more cleaning in less time. Don't lay people off. We just spend more on unemployment then.

    cut the budget yes. by doing more with less.

    Just my two cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Michigan's economic problems are caused by the unions. Industry has fled the state and so have most of thier brightest and youngest because of the unions.

    Taxes are not the answer.
    Nice change of subject.

    If your a Michigan republican, apparently the solution IS taxes, as long as it's on the retiree pensions and on the poor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxx.goodwin View Post
    The problem with all these budget cuts. Well there are a few. First of all they're laying off teachers and firefighters.

    Just my two cents
    Here in Brookings the teachers aren't waiting around. There was a front page article in the paper this week saying that there is a flood of early retirements among teachers in the district.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Nice change of subject.

    If your a Michigan republican, apparently the solution IS taxes, as long as it's on the retiree pensions and on the poor.
    I didn't change the subject.

    The Top 10% are taxed enough and more taxes is not the solution.

    If Michigan wants to prosper they will have to change or the productive will continue to leave.

    Major corporations don't even consider Michigan because of thier buisness climate.

    Look at Arkansas, they are giving everyone a tax break with their surplus of money. The unions have no power there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    In Michigan we are seeing the typical conservative point of view in action. Cut taxes on business. Leave taxes on folks that high incomes alone. Hike taxes on retiree pensions and on the poor.

    Just can't make this stuff up. The republican legislature fought the previous Democratic Gov tooth and nail against any and I mean ANY increase in taxes to help close the deficit. Put a republican in there, done deal, as long as he leaves the wealthy alone.
    If you think the "wealthy" are electing the legislature, you are as empty headed as your other liberal clowns.

    Keep editing, Buzz. You might just stumble on the real reason your legislature got turned over...just like Wisconsins.

    HOW DID THE PROBLEM ORIGINATE???? It was far more than the "wealthy" that realized the present government was ruining the state.

    As I've always stated, nobody pays any attention until THEIR OX starts getting gored. That might include the lower 50% of the population...THE POOR..that haven't paid a dime to support the nation for years.

    That's your kind of people...too bad they are so ignorant they don't even understand they have to get off their lazy asses and at least vote in the leaders that continue to provide their handouts.

    Elections have consequences, as the public unions in Wisconsin are discovering. Similar to what the TEA partiers discovered when the Obama regime got elected and starting to impose their laws on real Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    I didn't change the subject.

    The Top 10% are taxed enough and more taxes is not the solution.

    If Michigan wants to prosper they will have to change or the productive will continue to leave.

    Major corporations don't even consider Michigan because of thier buisness climate.

    Look at Arkansas, they are giving everyone a tax break with their surplus of money. The unions have no power there.
    That is when there should be tax cuts for all when there is a surplus not when States are in debt or in the case of the U.S. not during a war(s) or not when we have a major deficit..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    I think too many Americans think you can balance the budgets by cutting foreign aid and waste, fraud, & abuse. Then they are shocked to find out that cutting spending means cutting things that they support.
    And RAISING taxes. Without taking into account the revenue side of the ledger your only going half way.

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