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    Default Dems Crying Foul Over WI Supreme Ct Vote Change

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    Dems Furious After Vote Change Gives Lead to Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice
    Published April 08, 2011 | FoxNews.com

    Democrats in Wisconsin were crying foul Friday after a significant vote-count change in the hotly contested Supreme Court election gave the conservative incumbent the lead in a race that could decide the fate of the state's new divisive collective bargaining law.

    Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus said it was "human error" that resulted in more than 14,000 votes from her predominantly GOP county not being reported on Tuesday. The corrected totals gave conservative Justice David Prosser a 7,500-vote lead, according to unofficial tallies, and undid the earlier likelihood of a recount.

    Rep. Peter Barca, Democratic Assembly minority leader, said Nickolaus' revelation "raises disturbing questions, particularly in light of her partisan history."

    "The new Supreme Court race vote totals she 'discovered' during canvassing not only swung the election but also put the race just barely past the amount needed to trigger a state-financed recount," he said in a statement.

    "It doesn't instill confidence in her competence or integrity," he said, adding that the mistake could warrant an investigation.

    Liberal groups also howled in protest.

    "There is a history of secrecy and partisanship surrounding the Waukesha county clerk and there remain unanswered questions," Scot Ross, director of the liberal group One Wisconsin Now, said in a statement.

    But Republican state Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald told Fox News he believes Nickolaus made a mistake.

    "The canvas process in Wisconsin is pretty routine after an election happens," he said, "and, in the many that I have been involved in over the years, certainly there are changes to the vote totals that come in on election night."

    Fitzgerald noted that Grant County had added more than 100 votes for challenger JoAnne Kloppenberg after the initial count.

    Prosser had faced a surprisingly strong challenge from Kloppenburg, a little-known assistant state attorney general who drew last-minute support -- and significant get-out-the-vote efforts -- from opponents of Gov. Scott Walker's push to limit union power as part of a budget-balancing plan.

    "I like to think that I have survived a nuclear firestorm of criticism and attack and smear," Prosser told Fox News Thursday night. "As far as I'm concerned, if these results hold up, I will be the winner."

    Prosser added that he is waiting out the process.

    "I'm not conceding, and I'm not congratulating. And I'm not claiming victory," he said.

    Prosser said the race should not be considered a referendum on Walker or any legislation that may end up at the court.

    The fate of that law, which is facing legal challenges, could end up before the state Supreme Court, where Prosser or Kloppenberg could tip the balance. On Thursday, the state attorney general sought expedited review from the state's high court.

    Opponents of the law had hoped a Kloppenburg victory would set the stage for the high court to strike it down.

    Fitzgerald said he didn't want to predict the outcome of the law regardless of who's in the justice's seat, but he would be pleased if Prosser held the post.

    "I wouldn't want to make any presumptions on what the Supreme Court might do. But, certainly, I think, you know, having Justice Prosser there, I think he has been a strong voice for the law, and a strong voice for Wisconsin for many, many years, and, I obviously, I'm certainly hopeful that the vote totals hold up for Justice Prosser, after the canvas is completed," he said.

    Nickolaus apologized Thursday for the error, saying the most significant error occurred when she entered but did not save totals from the city of Brookfield, a suburb of Milwaukee.

    "This is not a case of extra votes or extra ballots being found," Nickolaus said. "This is human error, which I apologize for."

    Kloppenburg's campaign manager, Melissa Mulliken, demanded a full explanation of how the error occurred and said an open records request for all relevant documents would be filed.

    Ramona Kitzinger, the vice chair of Waukesha County Democratic party who observed the canvass, said she is satisfied the numbers are now correct.

    "We went over everything and made sure all the numbers jibed up and they did," she said.

    The Government Accountability Board, which is in charge of overseeing Wisconsin's elections, will review Waukesha County's numbers to verify the totals, said agency director Kevin Kennedy.

    Kennedy said it was unfortunate the clerk didn't double-check the data before releasing it to the media. Kennedy also said such mistakes are known to happen but that "we just don't see them of this magnitude."

    Nickolaus has faced criticism before for her handling of elections and previously worked 13 years for a state GOP caucus that was controlled by Prosser when he was Assembly speaker in 1995 and 1996. She was given immunity from prosecution in a 2002 criminal investigation into illegal activity by members of the caucus where she worked as a data analyst and computer specialist.

    The corruption probe took down five legislative leaders, all of whom reached plea deals. Nickolaus resigned from her state job in 2002 just before launching her county clerk campaign.

    Nickolaus also has been criticized by the Waukesha County Board for her handling of past elections and lack of oversight in her operations.

    An audit of Nickolaus' handling of the 2010 election found she needed to take steps to improve security and backup procedures, including not sharing passwords. The audit was requested after the county's director of administration said Nickolaus had been uncooperative with attempts to have county experts review her systems and confirm backups were in place.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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    I can't tell you how much fun I've been having over at the HuffPost site fanning the flames MY handle over there is Saint007. I can just feel thier blood pressure rising by touching my keyboard.

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    I think Roger, Little Rog & Buzz gained a few points on the old BP meter as well

    Good to see one go for the guys in the white hats for a change
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    I think Roger, Little Rog & Buzz gained a few points on the old BP meter as well

    Good to see one go for the guys in the white hats for a change
    I don't think you saw any big celebrations from me on the Wisconsin thing. If I recall, all I really did was comment that I didn't feel comfortable with electing supreme court justices. And I think I said that I wouldn't act like a republican and start screaming about fraud.

    Regardless of which way this thing went, I would be really disappointed not to see the whole thing investigated to be sure it's all on the up and up - which it probably is. I don't happen to believe that there is fraud anywhere to the extent that you guys seem to think there is. Please don't try and convince me that you guys wouldn't be howling if the shoe was on the other foot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    I don't think you saw any big celebrations from me on the Wisconsin thing.
    I don't recall commenting on the election either???

    Perhaps big hunting man can pry himself away from his deer carcass alone long enough to point out our posts on this matter.

    It just might salvage some credibility, after the false accusations.

    (now watch the diversions come flying in)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    I don't recall commenting on the election either???

    Perhaps big hunting man can pry himself away from his deer carcass alone long enough to point out our posts on this matter.

    It just might salvage some credibility, after the false accusations.

    (now watch the diversions come flying in)
    Little Rog... Not many anti hunters on this site. You sure seem to lean pretty hard that way though with your comments about my deer photo. You talk a lot about being a life member of NRA. Maybe that's another one of your "online persona's"... having trouble keeping them all straight?

    As for whether you did or didn't comment on the election, who cares? I did not say you did. I merely speculated that your blood pressure may have risen a few points. Just concerned about your health. You are a little heavy for your height (according to you)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandyg View Post
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    WAAH! Have a nice day!!!
    It's Ok, the liberal progressives....OOOOPS......I mean the muddle of the road dependents are having a tough couple days.

    WI pretty much handed them and their public employee union thugs and Jesse Jackson and Michael Moore and their vision of Amerika their collective AZZZEZ!!!!!

    Courtesy of the true grass roots organization the Tea Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    Little Rog... Not many anti hunters on this site. You sure seem to lean pretty hard that way though with your comments about my deer photo. You talk a lot about being a life member of NRA. Maybe that's another one of your "online persona's"... having trouble keeping them all straight?

    As for whether you did or didn't comment on the election, who cares? I did not say you did. I merely speculated that your blood pressure may have risen a few points. Just concerned about your health. You are a little heavy for your height (according to you)
    Anti-hunter??????

    Sorry pal, you go there, and you lost me.

    have a nice weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf777 View Post
    Anti-hunter??????

    Sorry pal, you go there, and you lost me.

    have a nice weekend.
    That's all it took? hell, woulda went there a lot sooner. Good riddance. Here's your tune on the way out...


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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post

    Courtesy of the true grass roots organization the Tea Party.

    Life is good, and I am having a great day, thank you for caring!!


    RK
    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...from-anonymity

    But it has now come out how involved they have been in funding Tea Party groups, Americans for Prosperity, FreedomWorks, and Citizens for a Sound Economy ($12 million). [Check out a roundup of political cartoons on the Tea Party.]

    We do know, from Mayer’s reporting, that the Koch brothers have personally given over $2 million to candidates over the last 12 years, their PAC has contributed $8 million to candidates, and they have spent $50 million on lobbying. The Charles Koch Foundation has given $48 million, and another foundation they control gave $28 million. David Koch’s foundation gave more than $120 million. According to Mayer, $196 million dollars in total was distributed in the last 10 years to conservative causes and institutions.



    Hey--that's ok. We just have a vastly different notion of what "grass roots" means, that's all. Let me know how the Koch brothers work out for you in WI in a year or two. Good luck.
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