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    Default Tea Party Done???

    It appears not:

    Who Won the Shutdown Showdown? It Wasn't Even Close!!

    While Republicans wanted to cut more spending in Saturday's early morning compromise to keep the government open, they think they got the better of the deal.

    Here's why: HR1 was originally to seek spending cuts of $32 billion until Tea Party conservatives insisted on more than $ 60 billion. House Speaker John Boehner won more cuts than he originally sought and got the Senate to agree to votes to defund the health care reform law and groups like the nation's largest abortion provider Planned Parenthood - once votes Senate Majority leader Harry Reid said he'd never allow to come to the floor.Back on February 3, Reid called $32 billion in cuts "extreme" and "draconian."

    At a news conference New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., agreed, "I happen to think some of their cuts are extreme and go overboard. But every week they keep upping the ante and proposing extreme cuts."

    Over the next decade the cuts are expected to save hundreds of billions of dollars.

    The deal mandates a host of studies and audits of Obama administration policies. It also blocks additional funds for the IRS sought by the Obama administration and bans federal funding of abortion in Washington, D.C.

    The history of offers on this bill goes something like this. Democrats first offered no cuts, then $4 billion, then $6.5 billion, then $33 billion, then settled at $38.5 billion.
    Boehner made numerous adjustments to his offer in recent days too, but started at $32 billion, then with a Tea Party push went to $62 billion, then dropped to $40 billion, then $38.5 billion.

    Democrats claimed they met Republicans halfway after the $10 billion in cuts that already passed this year were approved. They settled late Friday night at three and a half times more.

    Boehner came in $8.5 billion higher than the halfway point between his high offer of $61 billion in cuts and the Democrats opening bid of zero cuts.

    It was not a totally lopsided bargain. Dems have some silver linings. There were no votes on defunding the EPA or PBS and NPR. Democrats fought for and won a $2 billion cut from the Department of Defense, knocking the military appropriation for the rest of the year down to $513 billion.

    But the GOP had to be able to see this as a win in the end, because it is puny compared to what they want to do next.

    House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan's 2012 budget resolution proposes cuts of $5 TRILLION in the next 10 yrs.

    But the resolution is a non-binding roadmap for the committees to use as they approve tax and spending bills for next year, the resolution will never be signed into law by the president.

    The next battle with consequences begins in a matter of two short weeks when the accumulated U.S. debt will be nearing it's $14 trillion legal limit. So Congress will have to vote to raise the ceiling so Uncle Sam can borrow still more money.

    The administration has said it will need to be raised between April 15 and May 31 or the U.S. could default and create a new fiscal crisis of unknowable magnitude. Fiscal hawks plan to demand strict, enforceable spending caps, triggers for across the board cuts, and austerity measures in exchange for raising the debt limit.

    This short-term agreement was just a beginning.
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    Terrific read!!!

    Your welcome.

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    Tea party folks have jobs. Tea party organizations don't get federal grants. Tea party events don't have slavish press coverage. They don't have tasseled loafered lobbiests. They don't have celebrities telling them how great they are. They don't have powerful, centralized leadership or a charismatic leader. There is no modern metric you can apply to measure their significance.

    Just because you don't see them in the headlines doesn't mean they've vanished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1tulip View Post
    Tea party folks have jobs. Tea party organizations don't get federal grants. Tea party events don't have slavish press coverage. They don't have tasseled loafered lobbiests. They don't have celebrities telling them how great they are. They don't have powerful, centralized leadership or a charismatic leader. There is no modern metric you can apply to measure their significance.

    Just because you don't see them in the headlines doesn't mean they've vanished.
    Tea Party has 250 people show up for a rally--------Guess the people are losing interest

    Apr 01, 2011 ... Tea Party rally in Washington, DC drew only 250 people

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    Like I said, Rodger... there just aren't the usual metrics for calculating the influence of something like the Tea Party. But by-the-by, Trumpka promised a big up-rising of workers in every major city in America on April the 4th. Sort of fizzled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    Tea Party has 250 people show up for a rally--------Guess the people are losing interest

    Apr 01, 2011 ... Tea Party rally in Washington, DC drew only 250 people
    You hope they are loling interest. Don't hold your breath---ON SECOND THOUGHT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    Tea Party has 250 people show up for a rally--------Guess the people are losing interest

    Apr 01, 2011 ... Tea Party rally in Washington, DC drew only 250 people
    Roger, what were the result of the WI Supreme Court race again? I think the Tea Party had a little something to do with that
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    Roger, what were the result of the WI Supreme Court race again? I think the Tea Party had a little something to do with that
    Again little RK, she was supposed to lose by a landslide and almost won the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    Again little RK, she was supposed to lose by a landslide and almost won the election.

    Almost only counts in horsehoes and hand grenades!
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    "At a Tea Party rally in Boston yesterday, Sarah Palin praised the crowd for winning that Senate race in Massachusetts. She said: 'Shoot, look at what you did in January. You shook up the United States Senate.' Unfortunately, no one heard the Senate thing, because after she said 'shoot,' 300 guns went off. "

    "The tea party nation announced last week that Sarah Palin will headline what is being called the first national tea party convention in February. It is expected to be the nation's largest ever gathering of misspelled signs."

    Q. How would you hide something from a tea party member???
    A. Put it in a text book.

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    In my view it is OK if a tea partier is more one thing. But, someone cannot be a tea partier if they do not believe in the concept of limited government and lower taxes. A tea partier can be other things as well but the tenants of limited government and lower taxes must be present.
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    Article [I.]
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Article [II.]
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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