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    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    To expand on your statement, I Hope that the BHO presidency is the wakeup call the American public needs to start paying attention to what is going on in OUR country...I still feel that the voting public got hoodwinked by a slick marketing campaign and a media blitz the likes we have never seen into electing someone not qualified to hold the office..I sincerely HOPE that we as a country don't repeat the mistake in 2012..I think the country can survive one term,especially after coming to their senses in 2010,but not too sure we could endure a second term
    My choice would have been Hillary Clinton. With McCain coming in at the bottom of his class standing and Palin taking 6 years to graduate from college with a journalism degree these two idiots would have put our country into a depression we would never have gotten out of. McCain also waffled on more than 40 issues. First he was for something then he was against something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    My choice would have been Hillary Clinton. With McCain coming in at the bottom of his class standing and Palin taking 6 years to graduate from college with a journalism degree these two idiots would have put our country into a depression we would never have gotten out of. McCain also waffled on more than 40 issues. First he was for something then he was against something.
    in many ways you are right RP...maybe Bill C was correct about when he made the "fairy tale ' comment..it was Hillary's race to lose, but she couldnt overcome the media love affair with BHO...I didnt want McCain either, my pick was Fred Thompson early and Romney when Thompson showed he didnt give a rats azz...I voted McCain -Palin because I had no other choice in the general election
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    in many ways you are right RP...maybe Bill C was correct about when he made the "fairy tale ' comment..it was Hillary's race to lose, but she couldnt overcome the media love affair with BHO...I didnt want McCain either, my pick was Fred Thompson early and Romney when Thompson showed he didnt give a rats azz...I voted McCain -Palin because I had no other choice in the general election

    I liked Thompson early also. I also liked Col Powell very well. I lost respect for him after his political cave. I understand that a lot of pressure was probably brought to bear on Powell though. I understood from something I heard that Powell's wife did not want him to run though. I can well understand her reluctance ! I was also very dissappointed in Thompson. Both of those men were not what I had thought they were ( feet of clay ). I guess that goes along with being in the spotlight and having one's faults exposed. Palin was too open to be a good candidate for prez. And McCain keeps changing his mind on things. Maybe that is better than just saying "present" when it comes time to vote on something however. If we had honest, decent people to vote for it would be different ( I think ). Trouble with that is honest, decent people never get that far anymore ( on the ballot ).

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    Maybe Tom Colburn is the nearest thing to an honest man that we have from OK but he is not well enough known to get any place on the national scene. I don't always agree with his ideas but then I never agree with all of anyone's ideas. I'm not sure he is "smooth" enough for the National level offices either. He is too much of an okie to be smooth.

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    I grew up in St Louis in the 50's and 60's, came of age in the 70's.
    I was raised in a culture and with values and morals I hold closely yet today.
    (taught by my family, Grand Parents, Parents, Uncle & Aunts)

    Those values and morals and that culture have been under attack for quite some time by the educated elitest and the secular progressives that will stop at nothing to acheive their vision and "change" America.

    I served my country and fought for them.
    You can if, you wish, insult and demean the war I was in, but I still am proud of my service and country.
    My family and my culture is full of veterans, Masons, Shriners, Eastern Star's, Demolay, Knights of Columbus, Firefighters and even 1 State Patrol Officer.
    These are the people that shaped my values and morals and developed the culture I was raised in.
    I have decided to draw the line and take a stand on those values and morals and that culture.
    They matter to me.
    They are worth fighting for to me.




    I am more than willing to help anyone who needs my help.
    I am tired of supporting 2nd and 3rd generation "proffesional" recipients of programs designed to "HELP" those who need it to get back on their feet.

    Do I think there is some kind of conspiracy?
    ABSOLUTELY!!

    The oldest conspiracy in the world.

    Right vs. wrong
    Good vs. bad
    Good vs evil
    God vs. satan

    Term it how you like, it exists!

    Doin' the best I can.
    Let the cheap shots begin, but I beleive, deep down inside, we all agree on this.


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    Well stated, RK.

    We had a man whoes standing in the area was very good. A roofer by trade whoes reputation for good fair dealing seemed to be unequaled. He is in his mid 60s and a lot of people trusted him. The handshake deal between us old
    people is still used between we older people around here. Hubby is in his 80's, another couple were a little older ( they have both died since the court case began ), another couple in their 70s, one couple in their late 60s or early 70s and so it went. A couple of widows ( one borrowed the money to pay for the materials up front for her roof ) of about 70. It is now the correct thing to pay for materials up front in our area and pay for labor when the job is finished. This group of people were scattered over 3 counties and all had hail damage from a bad storm about 2 years back. I will cut this short and just say he finally got charged with theft ( home repair fraud I believe was the way it read ). Anyhow it has taken a lot of gum shoe work by the victims but we nailed him even though he took bankruptcy. His morals suffered a lapse at the Elm Tree casino it would seem. So they come in all ages those who have a loss of moral values. I used to think it was the younger ones who we had to watch but not anymore.

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    FORT PIERCE — The owner of Pro-Tec Shutters was sentenced Tuesday to a year of community control and 10 years of probation for taking deposits from customers and not performing contracted work.
    Paul Arthur Guillette, 73, of Port St. Lucie, also was ordered to pay back $51,932 in restitution to customers he ripped off.
    At a hearing Tuesday morning before Circuit Judge James W. McCann, Guillette pleaded no contest to 27 counts of third-degree theft, six counts of forgery and six counts of uttering a forged document. Prosecutors dropped one count of forgery and one count of uttering a forged document.
    He could have faced up to 135 years in prison if convicted on all the charges and given the maximum term on each of the 39 charges.
    In the wake of hurricanes Frances and Jeanne, Guillette contracted to install storm shutters on more than 400 Treasure Coast residences but did not perform the work on many of them.

    A Fort Pierce Police officer used a warrant Tuesday morning to arrest Port St. Lucie resident Paul Arthur Guillette for at least seven different probation violations, according to the warrant. The violations include leaving his job without a probation officer’s consent and failing to pay restitution.
    According to court and arrest records, Guillette, the owner of the now-defunct Pro-Tec Shutters, took thousands of dollars in deposits from storm shutter customers after the 2004 hurricanes but never completed the work. Law enforcement authorities in Martin and St. Lucie counties took turns arresting Guillette in 2007 for grand theft and other charges related to his unorthodox business practices.
    On Aug. 28, 2007, a St. Lucie County circuit judge sentenced Guillette to house arrest for a year and four years probation for grand theft.
    Guillette’s attorneys have said he is merely an incompetent businessman who ran his company into the ground as he aged. They said Guillette never meant to steal from anyone and has tried to pay his customers back.

    You are right, it is not just the younger people you have to watch out for. I worked for the guy back in the 90's and he would not pay me for some of the jobs that I sold. He was a crook 10 years before he got caught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    On Aug. 28, 2007, a St. Lucie County circuit judge sentenced Guillette to house arrest for a year and four years probation for grand theft.
    Guillette’s attorneys have said he is merely an incompetent businessman who ran his company into the ground as he aged. They said Guillette never meant to steal from anyone and has tried to pay his customers back.
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    I liked what our judge did. The roofer claims he has no income other than his soc. sec. and can't afford to pay any of us any money. Since all needed their money back ( one of the victim couples are living on soc. sec. only ) the judge did not sentence him to prison as the roofer would lose his soc. sec. if he went to prison. He serves week ends only in the county jail and that will leave him free to seek part time employment. Some of the victims ( who did the leg work to help get him sentenced ) have checked up on his arrival at the jail on Friday evenings. And some of the roofer's soc. sec. gets divided among us. He will never get us payed off this way but they have his attention. For myself I would have preffered to see him go to prison but there were other people to consider. We are pretty sure he has money hidden ( lots of different bank accounts ) and also still gets money from the family roofing business. It would seem that he may have lied to the bankruptcy court so they may take a second look at him now. He does seem to have a gambling addiction. His fall seems to have started after we got casinos close enough for him to visit them often.

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