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    Quote Originally Posted by Sue Kiefer View Post
    I have no poop to sling just a question for anyone to answer................

    Where do you think we as a country would be right now IF Obama wasn't elected President??
    Reason I am asking is.................from what I recall our country was going to the shi^house before Obama took office. Having that party of governent continue down that path would have been better?????????
    Geez I don't know about that???
    Just saying...............
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    It seems to me that all elected are crooks. I can't see any difference anymore. We need to clean house by electing some honest people but it would seem that they aren't running for office in the USA.....maybe not in any country. Doesn't make any difference which party they belong to they
    are all wheeling and dealing with our money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    I rarely post in here.
    I dont feel I'm high enough up the intellectual ladder to discuss.

    Heres my question.

    Wasnt the revolutionary era in American history, started with the revolt of oppression and overtaxation from government??

    Have we become afraid to bloody the bullies nose?

    Are we really still Americans?

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    I guarantee that you are smarter than some who post here on a regular basis and that incudes myself. You might enjoy reading about Isaac Sears. He took part in the original Tea Party. I don't have a link but a search on the net will get the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charly_t View Post
    It seems to me that all elected are crooks. I can't see any difference anymore.
    Not all, there are good folks from all parties. And there are those that have "The Prince" on their bedside nightstand. You want wholesale changes, you need wholesale changes in election laws. When a incumbent spends half their term getting reelected something is wrong. Corporations have much too much say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Losthwy View Post
    Not all, there are good folks from all parties. And there are those that have "The Prince" on their bedside nightstand. You want wholesale changes, you need wholesale changes in election laws. When a incumbent spends half their term getting reelected something is wrong. Corporations have much too much say.
    hmmmmmmm......what are your thoughts about an incumbent that spends his whole term getting reelected??


    Just askin'........


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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    hmmmmmmm......what are your thoughts about an incumbent that spends his whole term getting reelected??


    Just askin'........


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    MILITARY & VETERANS
    • Ordered the Pentagon to cover expenses of families of fallen soldiers if they wish to be on site when the body arrives back in the US (2009)
    • Ended the Bush-era “blackout” imposed on media coverage of the return of fallen US soldiers (2009) * Note: The media is now permitted to cover the story pending adherence to respectful rules and with the approval of the fallen soldier’s family
    • Ended the Bush-era “black out” policy on media coverage of war casualties (2009) * Note: Full information is now released for the first time in the War on Terror
    • Ordered better body armor to be procured for US troops (2009)
    • Funding new Mine Resistant Ambush Vehicles (2009) * Note: The old Hummers were very vulnerable to roadside explosives and an alarming percentage of our soldiers lost in Iraq were on account of IEDs
    • Working to increase pay and benefits for military personnel (2009)
    • Improving housing for military personnel (2009)
    • Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses (2009)
    • Ordered that conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other neglected military hospitals be improved (2009)
    • Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military to a post-Cold War, modern fighting force (2009) * Note: Bush announced in 2001 his intention to do this but backed off the reforms after 9/11, which include: new procurement policies; increasing the size of Special Ops units; deploying new technologies; creating new cyber security units; etc.
    • Ended the Bush-era practice of awarding “no-bid” defense contracts (2009)
    • Improving benefits for veterans as well as VA staffing, information systems, etc. (2009)
    • Authorized construction of additional health centers to care for veterans (2009)
    • Suspended the Bush-era decision to purchase a fleet of Marine One helicopters from suppliers in favor of American made helicopters (2009)
    • Ordered a review of the existing “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on gays in the military (2010)
    • New GI Bill for returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan (2009)
    • Signed bill providing assistance for caregivers of veterans wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan (2010) * Note: The omnibus bill does the following: Training, funding, and counseling for caregivers; promoting pilot childcare programs for women vets under treatment at the VA; independent oversight to prevent abuse; readjustment counseling for National Guard and reservist units; etc.
    • Eliminated co-payments for veterans who are catastrophically disabled (2010)
    • Fulfilled campaign promise to have combat troops (90,000) out of Iraq by August 31, 2010 (2010)
    • Established a new interagency task force to assist veterans owning small businesses (2010) * Note: The efforts include promoting federal contract opportunities, improve access to loans and capital, mentor assistance programs, etc.
    • Signed The Families of Fallen Heroes Act, which covers the moving costs of immediate family members of those lost in service (military, intelligence, and security personnel) (2010)

    And that is just about the military--------------------------- did I mention he also gave orders to kill/capture Osama bin Laden #1 on the most wanted list since 2001????????????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyb View Post
    AND basketball,golf , spiking the football and eating alot of ice cream...
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    You cajuns must be a petty bunch.

    Either that or you don't appreciate multitasking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sue Kiefer View Post
    I have no poop to sling just a question for anyone to answer................

    Where do you think we as a country would be right now IF Obama wasn't elected President??
    Reason I am asking is.................from what I recall our country was going to the shi^house before Obama took office. Having that party of governent continue down that path would have been better?????????
    Geez I don't know about that???
    Just saying...............
    Sue
    Here is an even more profound question for you. Where do you think we as a Country would be right now if GW Bush had never been elected President????????????? It has been shown alot of the people Bush surrounded himself with after he was elected were in favor of invading Iraq as early as 1998. Bush was left with a balanced budget and an economy in good shape and a low unemployment percentage a complete opposite of when he left office.

    9/11/2001 happened but the Bush administration was warned something big was going to happen as early as July, 2001 and took no action to stop it. Would Gore have taken heed of these warnings and been able to stop al Qaeda from completing their mission?????????????? Would unemployment be 10% would we have a deficit over 14 trillion dollars??????????? Would we be involved in 2 wars that are the longest in the history of the United States?????
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    I dont like to get into Obama did this,, Bush did that debate!

    Theys just Presidents. They arent Kings!!

    I thnk Local involvement SHOULD be more productive.
    I dont Like the FEDERAL Government! Theys to expensive for me!!
    I don much better at WalMart,, where prices make sense, and I still get a good value with name brand junk!

    ANYWAYS

    Here is a Local collum that long ago, people in Colorado would jump up and down screaming here,, here.

    I think what has changed, is Colorado has become a state of Tax recievers, rather than tax payers. I dont think the tax recievers want to stick a fork in theys eyes,, so we have our current climate.

    But here is the collum.
    I highlighted what I feel is important


    WE CANT TAX OURSELVES RICH



    Many of the same people who express concern for a "sustainable" energy policy are also advocates of more government spending, especially on social programs. But they have a fatal blind spot when it comes to economic sustainability.
    Government spending has a finite limit, too. Balancing the budget is impossible if spending exceeds our tax capacity. Blithely assuming that ever higher tax rates will automatically produce the hoped-for windfall of revenues is a liberal delusion. A society can't tax itself rich. It can only produce itself rich, and there's a limit to how much you can soak the "rich" before you drown them in economic disincentives to the detriment of all.
    This caution will doubtless fall on deaf ears to the folks at the Colorado Center on Law and Policy, another member of the hive that forms Colorado's activist "progressive" network. The group has a plan to close the state's looming, billion-dollar budget deficit. Not surprisingly, it doesn't include spending cuts. It would accommodate and expand our spending excesses with a selective tax increase of $1.5 billion. After a similar attempt was derailed in 2010, they're back with a new brew of ballot initiatives they've christened "A Fair Income Tax System" that would impose a graduated income tax on rich and not-so-rich Coloradans.
    Taxes are much more than a source of revenue for this crowd. They're a means of achieving "economic justice" in the socialist sense, and fairness is code for redistribution of income.
    Their "fair tax" would replace our current flat tax of 4.63 percent with an accelerating schedule of tax brackets, and also increase the 4.63 percent corporate income tax rate to 7 percent. Joint returns, for example, with incomes under $50,000 would see the tax rate drop to 4.2 percent while everyone else's goes up. The marginal rate on incomes between $50,000 and $100,000 would increase to 6.5 percent; then 7 percent between $100,000 and $200,000; 8 percent between $200,000 and $500,000; 9 percent between $500,000 and $1,000,000; and millionaires would be soaked at a marginal rate of 9.5, more than double the current rate.
    This, of course, is over and above the top federal rate of 35 percent that Barack Obama and the Democrats want to hike to 39.6 percent along with the elimination of the ceiling on Social Security taxes, which would add another 12.4 percent payroll tax on incomes over $106,800.
    Predictably, these progressives hope to seduce a majority of voters with a beggar-thy- neighbor appeal, claiming that 60 percent of Coloradans would pay the same or less than they do now. This assumes that their scheme won't have overall negative economic consequences. The fact that the bottom 50 percent on the income ladder currently pays less than 3 percent of federal income taxes while the top 10 percent carries 70 percent of the burden is ample proof that income taxes are already plenty progressive enough. Their corporate tax increase also ignores the reality that corporations don't really pay income taxes; they just collect them. Like all other business costs, they must ultimately be recovered from their customers. Only people pay taxes.
    The progressives were apparently inspired by Rahm Emanuel's dictum, "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." Hence, Colorado's budget deficit is a convenient excuse to do what progressives want to do when economic times are good, bad or mediocre: raise taxes on the rich (and middle class, in this case) and pass the goodies around. Their ploy will reward government profligacy, penalize productive enterprise and make Colorado a less attractive place to do business, driving away jobs.
    California is an object lesson in this kind of folly that's unwise to imitate. Let's hope a majority of rational Coloradans have the good sense to reject this exercise in self- destructive "fairness."





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    P.S.

    I aint rich!!


    I think I read somwheres that 47 percent of the current income earners in the United states pays "0" percent income tax.
    Thats either because they dont make enough,, or
    THEY QUALIFY FOR EVER INCREASING HANDOUTS provided by the Federal government PAID FOR by that hard workin 'RICH" guy!!

    It seems to me,, that the FAIR tax that the CONSTITUTION demands, has come to mean,, To worker extra hard,, and let GOVERNMENT take your money to give it to others!!

    Like I originally asked!

    Isnt this whats all that revolution and havin a tea party thing was all about in the first place?

    What FAIR about the AMERICAN Government taking money away from some,, to GIVE to Others!! How is that AMERICAN!
    ANNND they want TAX more so they have more to give away!!

    Sumtimes I think I should try and jump on that Gravy train,,

    Nah!! Like I said!!! I cant afford them Ferderal Government types!! Theys cost to much

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