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    I believe he is also. Though he has shamelessly been attacked by those on the far left and far right. He remains a senator who, like Senator Lindsey Graham, retain a conscience. Repeatedly he has shown the moral fiber to break ranks, with those that are only politically motivated by their own self interest, to do what he thought was right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Losthwy View Post
    I believe he is also. Though he has shamelessly been attacked by those on the far left and far right. He remains a senator who, like Senator Lindsey Graham, retain a conscience. Repeatedly he has shown the moral fiber to break ranks, with those that are only politically motivated by their own self interest, to do what he thought was right.
    I gather you're a big Joe Lieberman fan, then? Or does your admiration for mavricky politicians not apply when it's a Democrat who is jumping ship?
    I'll take the river down to still water and ride a pack of dogs.

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    I stand by McCain as someone with integrity. Seems the lack of integrity is not a issue with some. As Sen. Hatch defending the corporate welfare of oil companies though supposedly against big government, big deficits and for the American people. Not that the oil companies giving large sums to the GOP would buy their support. Of course not, that would be the usual rotten to the core Washington politics. After all, giving billions to big oil is what any patriotic Republican worthy of the flag pin on their lapel should endorse. They're looking out for your best interest in doing so.
    John McCain served honorably and he showed up for work which is more than we can say about ______________.

    Hammered by Democrats who want to eliminate some of their tax breaks, oil companies have poured considerable sums into Republican campaign coffers and lobbying efforts on Capitol Hill.
    Executives for ConocoPhillips, Exxon Mobil Corp., BP America Inc., Chevron Corp. and Shell Oil Co. appeared Thursday before the Senate Finance Committee. Many of the panelís members, particularly Republicans, have received oil company dollars in the last few election cycles.
    Senate Finance members have received $195,000 from ConocoPhillips, Exxon Mobil, BP, Chevron and Shell since 2007, according to a CQ MoneyLine analysis of Federal Election Commission filings.
    Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) topped the list in contributions with $32,500, followed by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) with $25,000, Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) with $25,000, Sen. Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) with $24,500 and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) with $24,000.
    Three other Republicans on the committee received contributions: Sen. John Thune (S.D.) received $23,000, Mike Crapo (Idaho) received $23,000 and Finance ranking member Orrin Hatch (Utah) received $2,500.
    Four panel Democrats also collected big oil cash. Chairman Max Baucus (Mont.) took in $10,500, Sen. Bob Menendez (N.J.) received $2,000, Sen. Jeff Bingaman (N.M.) received $2,000 and Sen. Kent Conrad (N.D.) received $1,000.
    Republicans have, by far, been the primary Congressional beneficiaries of Big Oilís largesse. The five biggest oil companies gave 97 percent of their contributions to Republicans in the first quarter of this year. In the 2010 election cycle, 83 percent of their contributions went to the GOP.
    Exxon Mobilís political action committee, which was the largest contributor of the top five oil companies this year, donated $235,560 to campaigns, and all but $7,000 went to GOP campaigns.
    The oil giantís PAC gave the $10,000 maximum to Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and $5,000 each to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), House Energy and Commerce Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.), and House Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.).
    BPís filings show it made no contributions after a major explosion on its oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico in April 2010 led to a months-long oil leak.
    But the company resumed its contributions in the first quarter of this year, distributing $19,000, all but $3,000 of which went to Republicans. BP gave $5,000 each to Boehner, McCarthy and Upton, as well as $1,000 to Camp.
    The big five oil companies also spent almost $17.9 million on lobbying in the first quarter of this year, compared with just over $17 million in the same period in 2010. ConocoPhillips spent the most with $6.2 million, followed by Shell with $3.9 million, Exxon Mobil with $3 million, Chevron with $2.8 million and BP with $2 million.
    The American Petroleum Institute, which represents the big oil companies in Washington, spent $2 million in lobbying in the first quarter of this year, compared with $1.2 million for the same period in 2010.
    What its prominence suggest, and what all science confirms is that the dog is a creature of the nose- A. Horowitz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Losthwy View Post
    I stand by McCain as someone with integrity. Seems the lack of integrity is not a issue with some. As Sen. Hatch defending the corporate welfare of oil companies though supposedly against big government, big deficits and for the American people. Not that the oil companies giving large sums to the GOP would buy their support. Of course not, that would be the usual rotten to the core Washington politics. After all, giving billions to big oil is what any patriotic Republican worthy of the flag pin on their lapel should endorse. They're looking out for your best interest in doing so.
    John McCain served honorably and he showed up for work which is more than we can say about ______________.

    Hammered by Democrats who want to eliminate some of their tax breaks, oil companies have poured considerable sums into Republican campaign coffers and lobbying efforts on Capitol Hill.
    Executives for ConocoPhillips, Exxon Mobil Corp., BP America Inc., Chevron Corp. and Shell Oil Co. appeared Thursday before the Senate Finance Committee. Many of the panel’s members, particularly Republicans, have received oil company dollars in the last few election cycles.
    Senate Finance members have received $195,000 from ConocoPhillips, Exxon Mobil, BP, Chevron and Shell since 2007, according to a CQ MoneyLine analysis of Federal Election Commission filings.
    Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) topped the list in contributions with $32,500, followed by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) with $25,000, Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) with $25,000, Sen. Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) with $24,500 and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) with $24,000.
    Three other Republicans on the committee received contributions: Sen. John Thune (S.D.) received $23,000, Mike Crapo (Idaho) received $23,000 and Finance ranking member Orrin Hatch (Utah) received $2,500.
    Four panel Democrats also collected big oil cash. Chairman Max Baucus (Mont.) took in $10,500, Sen. Bob Menendez (N.J.) received $2,000, Sen. Jeff Bingaman (N.M.) received $2,000 and Sen. Kent Conrad (N.D.) received $1,000.
    Republicans have, by far, been the primary Congressional beneficiaries of Big Oil’s largesse. The five biggest oil companies gave 97 percent of their contributions to Republicans in the first quarter of this year. In the 2010 election cycle, 83 percent of their contributions went to the GOP.
    Exxon Mobil’s political action committee, which was the largest contributor of the top five oil companies this year, donated $235,560 to campaigns, and all but $7,000 went to GOP campaigns.
    The oil giant’s PAC gave the $10,000 maximum to Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and $5,000 each to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), House Energy and Commerce Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.), and House Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.).
    BP’s filings show it made no contributions after a major explosion on its oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico in April 2010 led to a months-long oil leak.
    But the company resumed its contributions in the first quarter of this year, distributing $19,000, all but $3,000 of which went to Republicans. BP gave $5,000 each to Boehner, McCarthy and Upton, as well as $1,000 to Camp.
    The big five oil companies also spent almost $17.9 million on lobbying in the first quarter of this year, compared with just over $17 million in the same period in 2010. ConocoPhillips spent the most with $6.2 million, followed by Shell with $3.9 million, Exxon Mobil with $3 million, Chevron with $2.8 million and BP with $2 million.
    The American Petroleum Institute, which represents the big oil companies in Washington, spent $2 million in lobbying in the first quarter of this year, compared with $1.2 million for the same period in 2010.
    Whew...a whole lotta work to not address the question. You could have just posted the picture of the bunny with the pancake on its head. I'll try again... Do you admire Joe Lieberman and his mavricky ways or just Republicans who stray off the reservation from time-to-time to side with you?
    I'll take the river down to still water and ride a pack of dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hew View Post
    Whew...a whole lotta work to not address the question. You could have just posted the picture of the bunny with the pancake on its head. I'll try again... Do you admire Joe Lieberman and his mavricky ways or just Republicans who stray off the reservation from time-to-time to side with you?
    Opaque.

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    What its prominence suggest, and what all science confirms is that the dog is a creature of the nose- A. Horowitz.

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