Waterboarding, Why is it torture?

**road kill** · 05-09-2011, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Roger Perry

In the Past you bitched about Clinton not taking out bin Laden when he had the chance. Now you sing a different tune. Please tell us what the difference was when you thought Clinton had a shot at bin Laden (even though there was not a positive ID) and did not bomb him and now???????????? Wouldn't Clinton ordering a bombing in Afghanistan be unilaterally entering a soverign nation to assassinate a foreign leader??????????????? How about Bush, he sent an army into a soverign nation with the express purpose of killing or capturing bin Laden and other al Qeada leaders.

Who is the sympathizer now?

"Anyone who questions whether the United States should have killed Osama bin Laden needs to have their head examined, President Barack Obama said in remarks broadcast on Sunday."
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/obama-says-...025544789.html

I have no problem what so ever whacking Bin Laden.

That is a quote from a very famous secular progressive.

But it appears the rules have changed.

RK

**2labs** · 05-09-2011, 01:22 PM

Sue,
It looks good on paper but lets say you would have a family member working as a reporter and he was kidnapped and his beheading was filmed and released on the internet. Please tell me how you would be a bigger person here? Or a relative was handing out stuffed animals in front of a school in Afgan and a cute 12 year old came up to him, smiled, and detonated. ??

Roger, as it was stated, if there is a serial killer in prison and we needed to find the bodies that are not accounted for? Waterboard him till he talks, if he doesn't talk then we would have an "accidental drowning". A person in prison is no longer a menace to society. Now your boy wanted to close our terrorist prison (GITMO), that leaves one option. Kill em and carrying them out the front door. Of course your type fully believes they are all re-habilitated and will no longer due harm... WTFE.
Oh and Roger, my question? How many friends and family members did you lose on 9/11?

Lastly: Tell me how many awards the United states has won and how many friends abroad have we recieved for being the bigger person?
Eye for an Eye?
If I was in another country I would say, when are those stupid americans going to get tough, kick some serious ass and make a statement. Instead we are "suppose" to turn the other cheek and continue to get punched...

**Roger Perry** · 05-09-2011, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by 2labs

Sue,
It looks good on paper but lets say you would have a family member working as a reporter and he was kidnapped and his beheading was filmed and released on the internet. Please tell me how you would be a bigger person here? Or a relative was handing out stuffed animals in front of a school in Afgan and a cute 12 year old came up to him, smiled, and detonated. ??

Roger, as it was stated, if there is a serial killer in prison and we needed to find the bodies that are not accounted for? Waterboard him till he talks, if he doesn't talk then we would have an "accidental drowning". A person in prison is no longer a menace to society. Now your boy wanted to close our terrorist prison (GITMO), that leaves one option. Kill em and carrying them out the front door. Of course your type fully believes they are all re-habilitated and will no longer due harm... WTFE.
I am not dilusional I find it hard to believe for anyone that commits henious crimes that land them in jail can be rehabilitated unless of course it was proven through DNA that they did not commit the crime.
Oh and Roger, my question? How many friends and family members did you lose on 9/11?
I did not personally know anyone whose lives were lost in 9/11 however I was at home before going to work watching television when the planes slammed into the World Trade Centers. I saw people jumping out of windows hundreds of stories up and I saw the buildings crumble. I could not have felt worse if I had known anyone who was killed that day. It is something I will remember until I die.
Oh, I was also home from school sick when JFK was shot. I was watching television laying on the living room couch watching the motorcade. I saw JFK being shot and was in shock and disbelief just as I was on 9/11.

Lastly: Tell me how many awards the United states has won and how many friends abroad have we recieved for being the bigger person?
Eye for an Eye?
If I was in another country I would say, when are those stupid americans going to get tough, kick some serious ass and make a statement. Instead we are "suppose" to turn the other cheek and continue to get punched...

But hey, why stop at waterboarding why don't we try:

Kneecapping
Keelhauling
Mutilation
Oxygen deprivation
Picquet
Pitchcapping
Pressure points
Rat torture
Riding the Rail
Sexual assault
Sawing
Scalping
Scaphism
Sleep deprivation
Sound (extremely high volumes, dynamic range, low frequency, high pitched noise, intended to interfere with rest, cognition and concentration).
Starvation
Strappado/squassation (also known as "reverse hanging" and "Palestinian hanging")
Stress positions
Ta'liq hanging from a metal bar.
Tarring and feathering
Tickle torture
Tooth extraction
Water cure
Waterboarding

**road kill** · 05-09-2011, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Roger Perry

But hey, why stop at waterboarding why don't we try:

Kneecapping
Keelhauling
Mutilation
Oxygen deprivation
Picquet
Pitchcapping
Pressure points
Rat torture
Riding the Rail
Sexual assault
Sawing
Scalping
Scaphism
Sleep deprivation
Sound (extremely high volumes, dynamic range, low frequency, high pitched noise, intended to interfere with rest, cognition and concentration).
Starvation
Strappado/squassation (also known as "reverse hanging" and "Palestinian hanging")
Stress positions
Ta'liq hanging from a metal bar.
Tarring and feathering
Tickle torture
Tooth extraction
Water cure
Waterboarding

Why not???

In fact, if Obama wanted to do it.....you would volunteer for it!!!

RK

**Roger Perry** · 05-09-2011, 01:55 PM

bin Laden will be judged when he meets his maker.

and no, I do not feel sorry for him.

**badbullgator** · 05-09-2011, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Roger Perry

But hey, why stop at waterboarding why don't we try:

Kneecapping
Keelhauling
Mutilation
Oxygen deprivation
Picquet
Pitchcapping
Pressure points
Rat torture
Riding the Rail
Sexual assault
Sawing
Scalping
Scaphism
Sleep deprivation
Sound (extremely high volumes, dynamic range, low frequency, high pitched noise, intended to interfere with rest, cognition and concentration).
Starvation
Strappado/squassation (also known as "reverse hanging" and "Palestinian hanging")
Stress positions
Ta'liq hanging from a metal bar.
Tarring and feathering
Tickle torture
Tooth extraction
Water cure
Waterboarding

I am fine with all of the above.

**luvmylabs23139** · 05-09-2011, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Roger Perry

I don't know, I have never had a boat tipped over on top of me. There is always the chance of getting hit in the head and sinking to the bottom of the lake.

It was done in a controled manner. THat aside, you have a very strong opinion about waterboarding.
Does that mean based on your reply to the other situation that "you have been waterboarded" and are speaking from personal experience??

Afterall you won't comment on the other situation since it has not been done to you.

**Roger Perry** · 05-09-2011, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by road kill

Why not???

In fact, if Obama wanted to do it.....you would volunteer for it!!!

RK

You know, it must really chap your a$$ that it only took President obama 2 1/2 years what your boy couldn't do in 8 years.

Of course Obama did not give up either. Does "I don't know where bin Laden is and I don't care where he is" sound familiar? Then again obama was not looking past Afghanistan to invade another Country. Oh, and in invading another sovern Country, how about all those unarmed men, women and children that have been killed in Iraq.

**Roger Perry** · 05-09-2011, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139

It was done in a controled manner. THat aside, you have a very strong opinion about waterboarding.
Does that mean based on your reply to the other situation that "you have been waterboarded" and are speaking from personal experience??

Afterall you won't comment on the other situation since it has not been done to you.

No, i have never been waterboarded. As far as the other situation I don't know what to say. I know I swam under the swimming/diving platform many times at the local swimming pond where the water was murky and couldn't see a foot in front of you. But if in order to be certified you had to get a boat dumped on top of you at night in a dark lake then that is something you either did and got certified or didn't do and did not get certified. I know I never had to do any of that to get certified.

**Ken Bora** · 05-09-2011, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Roger Perry

You know, it must really chap your a$$ that it only took President obama 2 1/2 years what your boy couldn't do in 8 years.

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don't it remind you of a Tom Petty Song?
this is a great version, might he borrow Our commander in chief's teleprompter?
clink this link - -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GenHpuyiDug

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