The RetrieverTraining.Net Forums The Retriever Academy
Total Retriever Training with Mike Lardy
Hawkeye Media Gunners Up Tritronics Outdoor Media
Page 3 of 14 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 135

Thread: Waterboarding, Why is it torture?

  1. #21
    Senior Member road kill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    New Berlin, WI
    Posts
    10,704

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    In the Past you bitched about Clinton not taking out bin Laden when he had the chance. Now you sing a different tune. Please tell us what the difference was when you thought Clinton had a shot at bin Laden (even though there was not a positive ID) and did not bomb him and now???????????? Wouldn't Clinton ordering a bombing in Afghanistan be unilaterally entering a soverign nation to assassinate a foreign leader??????????????? How about Bush, he sent an army into a soverign nation with the express purpose of killing or capturing bin Laden and other al Qeada leaders.


    Who is the sympathizer now?

    "Anyone who questions whether the United States should have killed Osama bin Laden needs to have their head examined, President Barack Obama said in remarks broadcast on Sunday."
    http://sg.news.yahoo.com/obama-says-...025544789.html
    I have no problem what so ever whacking Bin Laden.

    That is a quote from a very famous secular progressive.

    But it appears the rules have changed.

    RK
    Stan b & Elvis

  2. #22
    Senior Member 2labs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Cold-Windy-Wyoming
    Posts
    472

    Default

    Sue,
    It looks good on paper but lets say you would have a family member working as a reporter and he was kidnapped and his beheading was filmed and released on the internet. Please tell me how you would be a bigger person here? Or a relative was handing out stuffed animals in front of a school in Afgan and a cute 12 year old came up to him, smiled, and detonated. ??

    Roger, as it was stated, if there is a serial killer in prison and we needed to find the bodies that are not accounted for? Waterboard him till he talks, if he doesn't talk then we would have an "accidental drowning". A person in prison is no longer a menace to society. Now your boy wanted to close our terrorist prison (GITMO), that leaves one option. Kill em and carrying them out the front door. Of course your type fully believes they are all re-habilitated and will no longer due harm... WTFE.
    Oh and Roger, my question? How many friends and family members did you lose on 9/11?

    Lastly: Tell me how many awards the United states has won and how many friends abroad have we recieved for being the bigger person?
    Eye for an Eye?
    If I was in another country I would say, when are those stupid americans going to get tough, kick some serious ass and make a statement. Instead we are "suppose" to turn the other cheek and continue to get punched...
    canine n. Synonymous with courage, valor, trust, selflessness. If we learned to be half of what dogs are, the world would be a much better place

  3. #23
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Port St. Lucie, Fl
    Posts
    3,611

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 2labs View Post
    Sue,
    It looks good on paper but lets say you would have a family member working as a reporter and he was kidnapped and his beheading was filmed and released on the internet. Please tell me how you would be a bigger person here? Or a relative was handing out stuffed animals in front of a school in Afgan and a cute 12 year old came up to him, smiled, and detonated. ??

    Roger, as it was stated, if there is a serial killer in prison and we needed to find the bodies that are not accounted for? Waterboard him till he talks, if he doesn't talk then we would have an "accidental drowning". A person in prison is no longer a menace to society. Now your boy wanted to close our terrorist prison (GITMO), that leaves one option. Kill em and carrying them out the front door. Of course your type fully believes they are all re-habilitated and will no longer due harm... WTFE.
    I am not dilusional I find it hard to believe for anyone that commits henious crimes that land them in jail can be rehabilitated unless of course it was proven through DNA that they did not commit the crime.
    Oh and Roger, my question? How many friends and family members did you lose on 9/11?
    I did not personally know anyone whose lives were lost in 9/11 however I was at home before going to work watching television when the planes slammed into the World Trade Centers. I saw people jumping out of windows hundreds of stories up and I saw the buildings crumble. I could not have felt worse if I had known anyone who was killed that day. It is something I will remember until I die.
    Oh, I was also home from school sick when JFK was shot. I was watching television laying on the living room couch watching the motorcade. I saw JFK being shot and was in shock and disbelief just as I was on 9/11.

    Lastly: Tell me how many awards the United states has won and how many friends abroad have we recieved for being the bigger person?
    Eye for an Eye?
    If I was in another country I would say, when are those stupid americans going to get tough, kick some serious ass and make a statement. Instead we are "suppose" to turn the other cheek and continue to get punched...
    But hey, why stop at waterboarding why don't we try:


  4. #24

  5. #25
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Port St. Lucie, Fl
    Posts
    3,611

    Default

    bin Laden will be judged when he meets his maker. and no, I do not feel sorry for him.

  6. #26
    Senior Member badbullgator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    somewhere between Boca Grande and Mims
    Posts
    7,159
    Views and opinions expressed herein by Badbullgator do not necessarily represent the policies or position of RTF. RTF and all of it's subsidiaries can not be held liable for the off centered humor and politically incorrect comments of the author.
    Corey Burke

  7. #27
    Senior Member luvmylabs23139's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    3,794

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    I don't know, I have never had a boat tipped over on top of me. There is always the chance of getting hit in the head and sinking to the bottom of the lake.
    It was done in a controled manner. THat aside, you have a very strong opinion about waterboarding.
    Does that mean based on your reply to the other situation that "you have been waterboarded" and are speaking from personal experience??
    Afterall you won't comment on the other situation since it has not been done to you.
    Hihope Hiland Heathen of Perth CD, RE, CGC, TDI

  8. #28
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Port St. Lucie, Fl
    Posts
    3,611

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Why not???

    In fact, if Obama wanted to do it.....you would volunteer for it!!!



    RK
    You know, it must really chap your a$$ that it only took President obama 2 1/2 years what your boy couldn't do in 8 years. Of course Obama did not give up either. Does "I don't know where bin Laden is and I don't care where he is" sound familiar? Then again obama was not looking past Afghanistan to invade another Country. Oh, and in invading another sovern Country, how about all those unarmed men, women and children that have been killed in Iraq.

  9. #29
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Port St. Lucie, Fl
    Posts
    3,611

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    It was done in a controled manner. THat aside, you have a very strong opinion about waterboarding.
    Does that mean based on your reply to the other situation that "you have been waterboarded" and are speaking from personal experience??
    Afterall you won't comment on the other situation since it has not been done to you.
    No, i have never been waterboarded. As far as the other situation I don't know what to say. I know I swam under the swimming/diving platform many times at the local swimming pond where the water was murky and couldn't see a foot in front of you. But if in order to be certified you had to get a boat dumped on top of you at night in a dark lake then that is something you either did and got certified or didn't do and did not get certified. I know I never had to do any of that to get certified.
    Last edited by Roger Perry; 05-09-2011 at 03:25 PM.

  10. #30
    Senior Member Ken Bora's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Burlington, Vermont
    Posts
    11,366

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    You know, it must really chap your a$$ that it only took President obama 2 1/2 years what your boy couldn't do in 8 years. .....
    don't it remind you of a Tom Petty Song?
    this is a great version, might he borrow Our commander in chief's teleprompter?
    clink this link - -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GenHpuyiDug



    .
    "So what is big is not always the Trout nor the Deer but the chance, the being there. And what is full is not necessarily the creel nor the freezer, but the memory." ~ Aldo Leopold

    "The Greatest Obstacle to Discovery is not Ignorance -- It is the Illusion of Knowledge" ~ Daniel Boorstin

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •