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Thread: Waterboarding, Why is it torture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpholehunter View Post
    No, that is not what I am saying. WHAT I AM SAYING IS IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whether you like it or not, Bush is gone, has been for 2 1/2 years. Its time for your President to take responsiblity for the shape of things around here. You can no longer blame Bush for the way things are. Your President has not helped this country one bit. He has re-nigged on all of his campaign promises, except healthcare(which more than half the country doesn't like). You would be taken more serious if you started focusing on the now instead of the past. What say you?
    This thread is about waterboarding. Waterboarding took place during the last Presidents term in office and stopped in 2006.

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    What are you gonna do, have Obama bring Bin Laden back to life???


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    I am all for what fate handed to bin Laden. Too bad it did not happen sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    I am all for what fate handed to bin Laden. Too bad it did not happen sooner.
    What would have been better had it happened sooner??


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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    What would have been better had it happened sooner??


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    If it had happened sooner as in 2001/2002 we may not still be in Afghanistan. I really don't care who got him, he is gone now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    If it had happened sooner as in 2001/2002 we may not still be in Afghanistan. I really don't care who got him, he is gone now.

    And if Clinton had gotten him when he had the chance the towers would still be standing, 3000 people would not have been killed and we may never have gone to A'stan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    And if Clinton had gotten him when he had the chance the towers would still be standing, 3000 people would not have been killed and we may never have gone to A'stan.
    Clinton was not warned by the CIA that the al Qaeda was planning an attack on american soil like Bush was warned and Bush took no action to try to stop it.

    If you will read the accounts, bin Laden was not positively identified by the drone miles up in the air. The drone did not have any bombs attatched to it. Clinton was in favor of capturing bin Laden instead of trying to drop bombs on him. Bush let bin laden get away when he was surrounded in Bora Bora. And, didn't bush say just a year after 9/11 he did not know where bin Laden was nor did he care???????????? Our present President made a statement that bin Laden was a priority target. Thank God he did not give up on his search for bin Laden.

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    If Bush was looking for him in the BORA BORA MTS...then as was stated he didn't know where he was...

    now had he been looking in the TORA BORA MTS...then he may have had a chance.....

    SMART ASS REMARKS regards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nor_Cal_Angler View Post
    If Bush was looking for him in the BORA BORA MTS...then as was stated he didn't know where he was...

    now had he been looking in the TORA BORA MTS...then he may have had a chance.....

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    Countries like Afgan, Iran, Pakistan etc..........are NOT like the USA.
    I like to think that we are more civilized.
    And yes, I feared for my nephew everyday when he served 2 tours over there.
    But do we really need to stoop to their level??
    And because these people live lives filled with violence everyday, do you really think torture is the answer??
    An eye for an eye?? really ??
    Sounds like their philosophy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sue Kiefer View Post
    Countries like Afgan, Iran, Pakistan etc..........are NOT like the USA.
    I like to think that we are more civilized.
    And yes, I feared for my nephew everyday when he served 2 tours over there.
    But do we really need to stoop to their level??
    And because these people live lives filled with violence everyday, do you really think torture is the answer??
    An eye for an eye?? really ??
    Sounds like their philosophy
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    I love hearing people try and claim that water boarding is not torture. I think that Luv said that it wasn't torture, but pulling fingernails was.

    I think that saying that a procedure that if taken just a little too far will cause damage to the lungs, brain, and other organs, and possibly death isn't torture is just a little odd.
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