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    Hmmmmm.......
    It's somewhat interesting that no "middle of the road independents" have described their "progression."
    (pun intended)

    Either they don't know how they got where they are, or perhaps they are not particularly proud of the journey???


    Just sayin'........


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    So.......I grew up in St Louis.
    As a JR in HS (1968) I went to see the "Southern Christian Leadership Foundation" and Ralph Abernathy host a speaker at the U of MO campus in Columbia MO.
    I watched this man speak and thought here is the guy that could bridge the gap.
    It was awesome.

    He failed.

    The speaker??


    Jesse Jackson


    ---more----
    When I played football at NE MO State/Truman State I had some errant ideas about things.
    But was far from the biggest redneck there.
    I saw some stuff that I knew was wrong.
    But I learned something from a black man I played along side of.
    Everyone would always complement him for all of his God given talent.
    Funny thing about Lenvil, whenever the coach sent us in, Lenvil stayed out and worked, and worked and worked!!!
    His work ethic and values stayed with me to this day!!

    One day some years later I watched SF play Cinn in the Super Bowl.
    FB for the 49er's??

    Lenvil Elliot......he earned it!!
    --more--

    When I returned from SE Asia we were greeted by a contingency of hippies from Berkely and Carmel CA.
    They threw eggs, tomatoes and human excrement at us.
    We were kids, coming home from what we thought was our honorable duty.
    It was horrible.
    "All gave some, some gave all."
    (if you want some details on some days there, ask)

    They were lazy pukes that stayed home and listened to rock music and experimented with sex and drugs.
    Yet they despised us.

    --more to come--

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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Hmmmmm.......
    It's somewhat interesting that no "middle of the road independents" have described their "progression."
    (pun intended)

    Either they don't know how they got where they are, or perhaps they are not particularly proud of the journey???


    Just sayin'........


    RK
    There are no MOI left here Stan. No one cares to argue with you anymore.
    Well, maybe Roger...but no one takes him seriously either. Peas in a pod ya know. Who cares what makes us who we are? My past was pretty much what you descibe in your OP. With the exception of losing a spouse.
    Yet somehow we find ourselves on different ends of the spectrum.
    I don't post here to change anyone's mind either. I'm not calling you or anyone else stupid. I like Forest. He overcomes.

    I guess if I would define why I am not a republican, and a conservative, is because I see them so often on the wrong side of history.

    Witness today's statements by John McCain...or the further revalations about Sen. Ensign.

    I'm not a socialist, or a communist. I just don't buy into what you and others here have to say about our current state of affairs.

    I have never attacked former Pres. Bush here. Neither have I extoled the virtues of BHO. I am content to throw a little barb here and there.

    Now please...don't feel compelled to correct my spelling. It is petty and beneath you. JDogger
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    I believe (for the most part) all of us are where we are due to the roads we have traveled.

    And I am described as a right wing extremist.

    If this gets any traction I will add more..............



    RK
    We are the road we travelled providing, we gained from those experiences . We have people on this forum who I think are intelligent that apparently missed the gaining.

    In SD I am a moderate, UB is just a little right of center. Buzz the transplant has a sign on I-90 between Mitchell & Sioux Falls that covers those of his ilk .

    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    The speaker??


    Jesse Jackson


    ---more----
    When I played football at NE MO State/Truman State I had some errant ideas about things.
    But was far from the biggest redneck there.
    I saw some stuff that I knew was wrong.
    But I learned something from a black man I played along side of.
    Everyone would always complement him for all of his God given talent.
    Funny thing about Lenvil, whenever the coach sent us in, Lenvil stayed out and worked, and worked and worked!!!
    His work ethic and values stayed with me to this day!!

    One day some years later I watched SF play Cinn in the Super Bowl.
    FB for the 49er's??

    Lenvil Elliot......he earned it!!
    --more--
    There are folks of every race that I would not mind having as friends .

    When I returned from SE Asia we were greeted by a contingency of hippies from Berkely and Carmel CA.
    They threw eggs, tomatoes and human excrement at us.
    We were kids, coming home from what we thought was our honorable duty.
    It was horrible.
    "All gave some, some gave all."
    (if you want some details on some days there, ask)

    They were lazy pukes that stayed home and listened to rock music and experimented with sex and drugs.
    Yet they despised us.

    --more to come--

    RK
    Those are the folks that are the backbone of the Democratic Party as it exists today. As George Will would say "full of zeal, destiutute of information". The folks that went to Vietnam were not volunteers, Lyndon Johnson's war .

    Any one who can associate themselves with this type of individual/group says an immense amount about who they are.

    I've seen a whole lot from the perspective of being someone on the outside. It gives you an entirely different slant on life.

    People are People & that's why I like my dogs .
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    There are no MOI left here Stan. No one cares to argue with you anymore.
    Well, maybe Roger...but no one takes him seriously either. Peas in a pod ya know. Who cares what makes us who we are? My past was pretty much what you descibe in your OP. With the exception of losing a spouse.
    Yet somehow we find ourselves on different ends of the spectrum.
    I don't post here to change anyone's mind either. I'm not calling you or anyone else stupid. I like Forest. He overcomes.

    I guess if I would define why I am not a republican, and a conservative, is because I see them so often on the wrong side of history.

    Witness today's statements by John McCain...or the further revalations about Sen. Ensign.

    I'm not a socialist, or a communist. I just don't buy into what you and others here have to say about our current state of affairs.

    I have never attacked former Pres. Bush here. Neither have I extoled the virtues of BHO. I am content to throw a little barb here and there.

    Now please...don't feel compelled to correct my spelling. It is petty and beneath you. JDogger

    Probably the best post I ever read from you!
    (just a tiny little hate seeping out)


    Kahones vs cahones regards..........

    Thanks,


    RK
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    I guess if I would define why I am not a republican, and a conservative, is because I see them so often on the wrong side of history. JDogger
    Please expand on that.

    IMO - McCain may have been a war hero but he's used those points up! I look at him as the Senate version of Roger Perry . Ensign is another who couldn't keep his zipper up, but there's a lot of that in both party's, U do remember the Chappaquickdick Kid don't U.

    But maybe your version of R & C is Pete Domenici .
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    Grew up in the deep south, experimented with alcohol, drugs and liberalism in late teens. Dropped out of college as a result and went to work in construction. Realized where that was taking me and decided to join the Navy.
    Spent the last 24 years serving with amazing people from every area of this country (and many from other countries), every race, religion, political persuasion and sexual orientation. Travelled the world and discovered what "poor" really looks like. Saw countries that have thrived under the American version of freedom and democracy, saw countries irreversibly damaged by socialism, communism and authoritarian dictators. Saw once great nations gradually decaying because of social policies that are economically unsupportable and a populace that has developed an incredible entitlement mentality.
    I've witnessed and been a small part of some of America's greatest foreign policy moments as well as some of its worst.
    All of this has taught me a few things:
    America is by far the greatest nation the world has ever known.
    Anyone without debilitating physical or mental handicaps can be successful in this country.
    Some of our fellow citizens deserve our help and support because they are incapable of providing for themselves but the majority of those that we support just need to get up and go to work.
    Our station in life is a culmination of the choices we have made. If you are unhappy with your life, the first step is to figure out what YOU did to make it that way. The second step is to take action to change it.
    If that makes me a right wing extremist meanie, then so be it.
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    I am surprised no one has described "Bent Over" as their current political position!!


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    After turning 18 and after having a few minor run in's with the law It was time for me to grow up so I joined the Air Force. Big big culture shock for me and apparently my disdain for authority had not completely left me and once again I found myself on the short end of the stick. Time to grow up some more and take responsibility for everything that happened to me. That one change in my personal development I believe was the most important decision I made in my life and got me through a difficult time . I continue to live by it and preach it to anyone who wants to listen.

    Today the most important lens I look through when viewing politics is the fact that this nation is a REPUBLIC not a democracy as most people believe. As such we are defined as a Nation of Laws and to me that virtue is a beacon for which we should follow when making difficult decisions and it is an ideal which we need to constantly strive for.

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    RK, Hookset, Cotts, wonderful posts to read. As for me, I am what my father and mother made me. For that I feel extremely lucky.While I have never met any of you, in a very nice and satisfying way I feel I know each of you. Thanks for the personal remarks.

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