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    Default Doesn't matter if you like him or not...

    ...but he does say what MUST be said by some candidate. I'm not saying The Donald should be the candidate, but I know he is saying what a lot of conservatives know need saying, and I applaud him for doing it.

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    Trump: Obama Re-election Will Lead to Second Crash
    Wednesday, 11 May 2011 04:03 PM
    By Jim Meyers


    Billionaire and potential presidential candidate Trump told a business gathering in New Hampshire that the 2012 presidential election will decide the economic fate of America and vows that if he runs and wins “this country will be great again.”

    In an address carried live by Newsmax via streaming video on Wednesday, Trump warned that the re-election of President Obama would lead to a huge increase in taxes, called for an end to Obamacare, and said high oil prices will lead to a “second crash."

    Editor’s Note: If you missed the live event of Donald Trump’s speech, you can watch a recording by clicking here.

    He also said during his speech in Nashua that the U.S. should withhold all aid to Pakistan until they discard their nuclear weapons, and defended the use of enhanced interrogation tactics on terrorist suspects.

    The speech at a business expo and luncheon was Trump’s first major address to the people of New Hampshire, the nation’s first primary state, and his first major public event since Obama released his birth certificate in response to Trump’s goading.

    Trump did not reveal if he intends to run for the Republican presidential nomination next year. But he declared: “If I run and if I win, and that’s a big if, this country will be great again. This country will be rich again. And maybe most importantly of all, this country will be respected again.”

    After he was introduced as “the man, the legend, the Donald,” Trump took to the podium and declared: “Our country is in serious trouble like it’s never been before.

    “Right now this country is going to go over a cliff. I honestly believe the upcoming election, if not the [most], is one of the most important in the nation’s history.

    “I can tell you if President Obama gets re-elected, I think your taxes are going to go through the roof. I do believe he’s holding them down as long as he can because he wants to get through this election.

    “I honestly believe if he gets re-elected your taxes are going to go to a level they haven’t been at in a long, long time. It’s not going to be good for this country or for business. It’s going to be good for no one.”

    Turning to the killing of terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden, Trump said: “We had a great victory last week with the killing of bin Laden. That was great, and enhanced interrogation really led us to that.

    “Enhanced interrogation. We’re so political correct. Isn’t that another word for torture?

    “And you know what? The people I watched jumping off the World Trade Center, that was torture.

    “Right now numerous people who used enhanced interrogation after September 11 are under investigation, and I don’t think they should be under the kind of gun they are under.

    “I look at what’s going on. I look at Pakistan. Not our friend. We give Pakistan billions and billions of dollars a year. I said [before Osama’s death], tell them we’re not giving you any money unless you hand over to us Osama bin Laden.

    “If anybody thinks that Pakistan, that the government, didn’t know that he was there, they’re foolish.

    “The bad guys could take over Pakistan very easily, very quickly. They have nuclear weapons. They desperately need our money. I say we don’t give them any money unless they give up their nuclear weapons. To me that’s so simple

    “They use that money for nuclear weapons. Let’s say they’re semi-friendly. But they might be tremendously against us soon, including Israel, because if that happens Israel is in serious trouble.

    “[Pakistan has] have serious nuclear weapons. But they need our money. That’s a deal I would make and I would not veer from it because you cannot let them have those nuclear weapons.”

    Trump noted that Iraq has $15 trillion in oil reserves, and the United States has already spent some $1.5 trillion there.

    “I say this: At a minimum we get our money back and we pay each one of the families of those soldiers that died a couple of million dollars, and we give our badly wounded and our wounded a lot of money. It’s peanuts compared to this incredible oil reserve.

    “When families of those fallen soldiers are sitting at home a couple of years from now, when Iran goes in and takes over Iraq and takes over the oil, how do you think the parents are going to feel about that, because those soldiers would have died in vain — plus all the wounded and all the money.

    “What a terrible, terrible situation.”

    On the subject of oil, Trump told the gathering: “If gasoline doesn’t go down dramatically we’re going to have a second crash. If oil stays over $100, we could have a real, real problem. We could have real second dip.

    “You look at what OPEC’s doing to this country. I always say the worst abuser of the United States is OPEC. The second worst is China.
    “I know how to deal with OPEC.

    “We have a real problem, and the problem is we don’t use our best people. Negotiation is an art. It’s an absolute art and we’re not using our best people.

    “I know Wall Street very well. When we negotiate against China, South Korea, against all of these countries, why aren’t we using our smartest, greatest business people? Instead we use a diplomat — a person that studies how to be nice.

    “I don’t want a nice person. And that’s why I may not make it in terms of getting [elected] I’m not that nice a person.

    “But I’d make this country great again, that I can tell you.”

    Trump did refer to Obama’s release of his birth certificate, stating: “I took on the president. I was very strong, I said put up your birth certificate. Now whether I was right in doing that or wrong, I don’t care.
    I mean, why not show it, and why did it take so long?

    “I was honored that I was able to get him to do it.”

    He compared Obama’s delay in releasing his birth certificate to his attempts to stall a final court decision on Obama’s healthcare reform legislation.

    “We have to get rid of Obamacare. I really think the president is doing this country a tremendous disservice. Just like he should have given his birth certificate three years ago instead of making everyone wait — it’s sort of the same thing.

    “We are going through all these court systems. Why doesn’t he allow it just to go to the Supreme Court? You’ll save a year and maybe more. I know people who are going absolutely crazy with their business on the assumption that Obamacare happens.

    “Ultimately those people on the Supreme Court are going to be ruling on Obamacare. Wouldn’t it be good if we knew what is going to happen instead of waiting?”

    Trump also said that Republican Rep. Paul Ryan’s deficit reduction plan “was early. There was no reason to put a plan forward where they are even talking about touching Medicare at this point.

    “The Democrats are doing a number on that plan like I’ve never seen.
    “Let Obama go first. He’s supposed to be the leader. Let him come in and put up a plan.”

    Finally, the potential presidential contender referred to his status as a political outsider.

    “All my life I’ve heard that very successful people cannot run for high office.

    “I’m very anti-establishment, that even includes the Republicans.

    “Republicans don’t like it because I’m not in the club. That club is not what is going to make us in my opinion a great country again.”






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    he does make for an interesting read....
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    Donald Trump: We Need A Health Care System Like What Canada Has


    Doug Mataconis · Friday, April 15, 2011

    “We must have universal healthcare,” wrote Trump. “I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses.”
    The goal of health care reform, wrote Trump, should be a system that looks a lot like Canada. “Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork,” he writes.
    The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. If the program were in place in Massachusetts in 1999 it would have reduced administrative costs by $2.5 million. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing.

    So the Donald wants the U.S. to have a health care system just like Canada. Isn't Canada a socialist Country?????????? Socialist health care regards.

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    Say UB, do you not have a reply for the Donald wanting the United States to have a health care system like Canada??????????????????????? You seem to be making comments on other threads. You are the one that brought up the Donald as a presidential candidate.
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    Yo, UB, I am still waiting on what you think about "the Donalds" preference for health care. You know the one where he said we should fashon our health care after the Canadians socialist health care program. Cat got your tounge?????????????????

    Are you in favor of changing our health care system over to the one the Canadians use????????????????

    Romney has passed a health care program very similar to Obamacare. If elected would you agree if Romney instituted a nation wide health care plan as he passed in his state???????????????
    Last edited by Roger Perry; 05-13-2011 at 05:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    Yo, UB, I am still waiting on what you think about "the Donalds" preference for health care. You know the one where he said we should fashon our health care after the Canadians socialist health care program. Cat got your tounge?????????????????

    Are you in favor of changing our health care system over to the one the Canadians use????????????????

    Romney has passed a health care program very similar to Obamacare. If elected would you agree if Romney instituted a nation wide health care plan as he passed in his state???????????????
    Romney admits it was an experiment for the state and it is bleeding the state. He stated that he would never put anything like that at the federal level.

    Not saying I like him above others(except "Pharaoh Obama") but just stating what I heard him say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    Yo, UB, I am still waiting on what you think about "the Donalds" preference for health care. You know the one where he said we should fashon our health care after the Canadians socialist health care program. Cat got your tounge?????????????????

    Are you in favor of changing our health care system over to the one the Canadians use????????????????

    Romney has passed a health care program very similar to Obamacare. If elected would you agree if Romney instituted a nation wide health care plan as he passed in his state???????????????
    Hey, mr. irritating! We are all still waiting on you to respond to your lousy "60% Poll" BS that was proven to be bogus or a least skewed. Get off UB's case. He probably has you on ignore like most of us and hasn't read any of your mundane posts. UB's thread had very little to do with Obamacare but covered many subjects. You remind me of those damn Buffalo Gnats that pester the pi$$ out of ya will sitting in a turkey blind. Just plain irritating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    Hey, mr. irritating! We are all still waiting on you to respond to your lousy "60% Poll" BS that was proven to be bogus or a least skewed. Get off UB's case. He probably has you on ignore like most of us and hasn't read any of your mundane posts. UB's thread had very little to do with Obamacare but covered many subjects. You remind me of those damn Buffalo Gnats that pester the pi$$ out of ya will sitting in a turkey blind. Just plain irritating.

    Go bother someone else regards,
    I did respond to yoir poll question. I saw it on GMA and researched it on google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Perry View Post
    I did respond to yoir poll question. I saw it on GMA and researched it on google.
    Your research, like your posts, leave something to be desired. Are you not smart enough to see that the poll was slanted towards Democrats?

    I'm not sure if you are full of hate, a troll or just plan ignorant.

    Give it a rest...
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