Vocal at Line Correction, My Version

[Chris Rosier]

Great post.

Congrats and good job.

[mudd]

Excellent post Stan and excellent progress. Being someone who trains with team Elvis from time time it really has been great to see the transformation of Elvis. Also good to see Stan enjoying and just having fun too.

Way to go!

[Marty Lee]

Stan, You said you dont correct for a yelp as he leaves the line and i can understand that. BUT my dog has started a little yelp almost every time he leaves the line even in drill work......Do you or anyone else think this is the start of problems ahead? if so what would you do to correct? he does not bark at the line while marks are going down sometimes he will whine while marking. I also plan to hunt this dog this coming season. The dog is 17mos old. and we are starting swimby also using smartworks. he has had 2 sessions of water force. all the steps up to this have been done. he also has his SHR title.....thanks

[Lenore]

Excellent post Stan!! I don't have a noise issue any more there is something else we are working on but you have given me back my hope of "keep at it, things will get better". Thank you!

[churncreek retrievers]

Stan, thanks for the info. I will definitely try it. I have a 2 year old alpha male who is quiet and calm will duck and goose hunting but the first sign of a hunt tests the barking returns. I took a year off between Jr and Sr events and thought the problem had been solved. The first mark went off in the Sr test and he went ballistic. I didn't know whether to give up on hunt test and have the world’s most expensive gun dog or try to sell him as a started dog. I have talked with several pros and have paid a trainer for about 7 months of training to correct. I will give it another attempt following this as a guide.

[Randy Bohn]

Good job Stan, good to hear some positive reports back with noise issues......Randy


churncreek whoever you are give me a call if you need a hand....484 332 9781...

[Illinois Bob]

Good job Stan, good to hear some positive reports back with noise issues......Randy


churncreek whoever you are give me a call if you need a hand....484 332 9781...

Pretty cool that you're helping everybody on this.

[Kory Poulsen]

Pretty cool that you're helping everybody on this.

You aren't kidding! Last year at this time I was going to sale my noisy dog. Now thanks to Randy and all of his input and A LOT OF HARD WORK we are getting ready to run a qual next month. I can't thank him enough.

Kory Poulsen

[road kill]

Thanks Randy, I acknowledged your support and input in the original post.
You were very helpful in this process and I have sent several people to you.
I am sure you remember our conversations.

A couple things;

#1---In every "pack" there is an "alpha" or leader.
Eventually you will have to make sure you and your dog (a small pack) know who the leader is.
I am not referring to the usual definition af an "A" personality.

#2---In regard to what to do in water.
IF THE DOG IS NOISY-----NO BIRD!!
That's all.

Some of the other questions I am not qualified to answer.

All I did here was offer one guys solution to a tough problem.
Thanks for the kind words.......



RK

[road kill]

I just thought I would bump this thread.
I saw the other thread asking advice.
If it could help those dealing with this issue....great.
If not......not so great.

It's just one guys thoughts.

I can report that Elvis' line manners have become excellent now.
Occasional squirm, but no breaking or noise!!

You can do it......stay the course!!

stan b & Elvis

For details, see post #1