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    I was wondering if any other Golden Breeders are starting to test for this? If so, has anyone considered a data base, like we do for PRA? Or perhaps a line in k9data.com?

    I had a litter last year with some affected puppies. The flaking was mild and at 6 months old, the pup with the worst flaking has no symptoms. Of course, I am not repeating that breeding in the future. As I considered the options for next year's litter I realized that I don't have any resources to determine which boys are carriers and which ones are clear.

    Any ideas or feedback?

    ps - I am starting to test my dogs but at the prices Optigen charges, it will take a few months.

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    Leslie,
    http://goldendna.com/

    Remember don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
    It's NOT the end of the world. it's a pain to explain to people but.............
    Just my 2cents.
    I have also had litters were their have been effected puppies.
    The symptoms still persist. They don't go away OR are cured. It is managed with a good shampoo and
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    Thanks Sue,

    It was depressing at the time to realize that despite all my efforts to breed healthy, quality puppies that this recessive genetic had shown up. But recessive is just that - recessive. Both parents are excellent dogs, titled, with great pedigrees, all their health clearances. They have value to future generations of Goldens. Just not with each other.

    I like the link to the skin supliment. One of my families added fish oil to the diet and that helped enormously. Another breeder told me that additional swim time helps to hydrate the skin and keep the flakes down.

    There is a good article in the May/June issue of Golden Retriever News on Ichthyosis. Of course, this magazine came out in July and my puppies were born in May.

    I have no problem breeding around a genetic problem, but I want to be able to identify the dogs who are carriers.

    I am having the samples that I have at Optigen tested for Ich but some of my dogs are prcd-PRA clear by parentage and now I have to do blood draws on them.

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    The optigen test is the answer.
    I just did PRA-prcd & ichthyosis on Fisher, the ichthyosis test came back today as clear and still waiting in prcd.
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    When you get your results you can submit them to http://www.goldendna.org/ for listing. I have not heard yet whether OFA will be listing those results as it will do with the PRA tests.
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    my 5 y/o old male has it. Was much worse when he was younger. Flairs up twice a year as he sheds his coat. Fish oil pills twice a day helps a lot.
    I'd never even heard of it until he started looking like a walking snow storm as a pup. It's not the end of the world as I thought when he was diagnosed with it.

    You're somewhat local to me. He came out of Minneapolis. Any connections in bloodlines?
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    I found out after the fact that his sire has it also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sterregold View Post
    When you get your results you can submit them to http://www.goldendna.org/ for listing. I have not heard yet whether OFA will be listing those results as it will do with the PRA tests.
    I'm sure OFA will start listing them. Probably takes them some time to get their website coding done to add new stuff like this. When GoldenDNA started, we anticipated that new tests would get added. Since it is a much smaller group than OFA has to deal with, it can be done more easily.

    The good news is that more clear ICT results have been coming in over the past 7 to 10 days. Looking more hopeful that the original listings were skewed by those dogs where ICT was already suspected. Webmaster has had to schedule periodic updates to the site since there has been a lot of volume lately.
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    How are you sure?
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    [quote=Melanie Foster;870935]
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    I'm sure OFA will start listing them./quote]

    How are you sure?
    If GRCA asks them to, I can't imagine them refusing to do so. They responded quickly to listing PRA1 results, which was a totally new test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 150class View Post
    my 5 y/o old male has it. Was much worse when he was younger. Flairs up twice a year as he sheds his coat. Fish oil pills twice a day helps a lot.
    I'd never even heard of it until he started looking like a walking snow storm as a pup. It's not the end of the world as I thought when he was diagnosed with it.

    You're somewhat local to me. He came out of Minneapolis. Any connections in bloodlines?
    http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=234406

    I found out after the fact that his sire has it also.
    Not a single connection in the two pedigrees. Nice looking dog and I know his Grandpa - Freeze. Handsome boys!

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