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    So, here's the deal;

    Chrysler, like General Motors, was aided by government loans made under the Bush and Obama administrations in 2008 and 2009. Taxpayers lost up to $1.3 billion lent to Chrysler, and the government no longer owns a stake in the company.
    Chrysler had hoped the ad would not become politicized. "It has zero political content," said Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne Monday. "It was not intended to be any type of political overture on our part. We are as apolitical as you can make us...I wasn't expressing a view and certainly nobody inside Chrysler was attempting to influence decisions."
    Clint Eastwood isn't particularly partisan, either -- he identifies as a libertarian. He served as nonpartisan mayor of Carmel, Calif., for two years. He supported Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in the 2008 presidential election but has said he no longer identifies with the GOP and doesn't know who he's voting for in 2012. He has also brushed off critics who read political messages into his films.
    Though conservatives have criticized the ad for supporting the auto bailout, Eastwood himself did not support it.

    I personally think that Chrysler CEO Sergio Macaroni is full of it! And, tax payers also own about 40 billion worth of Government Motors stock that we can't sell.
    Last edited by Franco; 02-06-2012 at 03:34 PM.
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    I was conflicted on that commercial.
    I thought Eastwood was one of us.

    I guess money talks..........


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    Reading between the lines, I would suspect that it was a way for the UAW to run a political ad for Obama in the Super Bowl. You know, with the false claim that Obama saved the U S Auto Industry.

    At $3.5 million for a 30 second commercial, that two minute ad cost $14 million. They would have won far more support buying a little bitty ad in the Detroit Free press stating that they were giving back 14 million to the tax payers.

    Lets don't forget that tax payers were stiffed for $1.3 billion dollars in the bailout of the UAW/Chrysler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Reading between the lines, I would suspect that it was a way for the UAW to run a political ad for Obama in the Super Bowl. You know, with the false claim that Obama saved the U S Auto Industry.

    At $3.5 million for a 30 second commercial, that two minute ad cost $14 million. They would have won far more support buying a little bitty ad in the Detroit Free press stating that they were giving back 14 million to the tax payers.

    Lets don't forget that tax payers were stiffed for $1.3 billion dollars in the bailout of the UAW/Chrysler.

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    No one has been stiffed

    I thought it made a statement to buy American. It was just as good a message for any of the US automakers.

    Yes money is still owed but not forgiven and these companies are on track to pay it back.

    This did not only bailout GM and Crysler, it saved Michigan.

    But to get Obama beat, you guys would buy a Toyota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    At $3.5 million for a 30 second commercial, that two minute ad cost $14 million. They would have won far more support buying a little bitty ad in the Detroit Free press stating that they were giving back 14 million to the tax payers.
    Chrysler giving the Obama admin a $14 million reach-around during the Superbowl is chump change compared to the $3.5 BILLION loan they're waiting on the Obama Energy Dept. to approve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambo View Post
    No one has been stiffed

    I thought it made a statement to buy American but body assembled in Canada and engine in Mexico. It was just as good a message for any of the US automakers.

    Yes money is still owed but not forgiven and these companies are on track to pay it back. What track is that?

    This did not only bailout GM and Crysler, it saved the UAW.

    But to get Obama beat, you guys would buy a Toyota Made in America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambo View Post
    No one has been stiffed

    I thought it made a statement to buy American. It was just as good a message for any of the US automakers.

    Yes money is still owed but not forgiven and these companies are on track to pay it back.

    This did not only bailout GM and Crysler, it saved Michigan.

    But to get Obama beat, you guys would buy a Toyota.
    I drive a Ford Lariat F150 built in Deerbourne, Michigan.

    Tax Payers will NOT be getting that 1.3 Billion under the terms of the buyout by Fiat of Chrysler. That money is gone forever.

    The forced stock purchase of GM stock is well below the IPO and it could be years or decades if the stock price ever gets to the point where it could be sold. And, if the tax payer portion of GM stock were to hit the market it would create a sell spree on GM stock. All very big "ifs" because GM/UAW may need another major bailout just to keep going!

    Don't forget that a few months ago when there was some positive news coming out of GM, the UAW was already demanding more consessions because of the consessions they had to give up in the original bailout.
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    So far as I'm concerned, that was a very pro American message.

    But go ahead and crap all over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Little View Post
    Just needed to fix it a little bit Sam
    Toyota sources all their parts from USA suppliers?
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    The secured bond holders who should have been first in line at bankruptcy court got royally screwed by OBUMMA. Instead the unsecured union got what rightfully belonged to the bondholders. REDISRTIBUTION at its finast.
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