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    Default My first time seeing myself handle on video... links attached.

    Well, here goes:

    I debated whether or not to post these publicly. I realized that I've been handling for HT/FT/hunting since the late 80's and I have NEVER seen myself on video.

    I have watched a few times and I see some things that I need to fix, and did not realize I was doing.

    Here are the video links:

    Rosie - not a retriever - her second time ever with gunner-thrown marks. She has not been taught proper delivery/force breaking. We probably will not do so. (never say "never" though)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPEdO652hQ8&feature=channel

    Bus - my lab

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymW8b2YMYCY&feature=channel

    Edit after watching: This is a city golf course that was recently shut down. It is in the city. No shooting allowed. Friends in law enforcement tell me blank pistol use would likely result in some squad cars and officers with guns drawn. I'm not going there!

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    Rosie's a pip... What fun!!

    You probably already know this but your sending way to quick once you drop your hand.

    You fuss to much with Buzz hand cuing on the singles. Also you stand to high on the dog. Drop back to his hip. It will give you more room to push/pull your dog. It also opens up the field for the dog. You should step up if need be to help the dog find the gun, but then drop back before you call for the gun.

    Dog should be in the middle of the mat and you on either side....

    I didn't watch the video's all the way through. I've got to return some phone calls but that's what I got so far....

    Don't cha love it??!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie B View Post
    You fuss to much with Buzz hand cuing on the singles. Dog should be in the middle of the mat and you on either side....
    I noticed the same things. Funny how that FF'd dog looks like he is enjoying his work!

    Good job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dman View Post
    I noticed the same things. Funny how that FF'd dog looks like he is enjoying his work!

    Good job!
    He probably is, we just can't see it... LOL!! Some dogs are darn serious about their work....

    Now the brindle pit had a hell of a good time!!!!

    Angie

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    At work and finally got to watch your video all the way through. Rosie looks like fun!!!! Buzz looked good. Runs real straight. Yes others have said you send too fast but don't we all!!! Nice place to train. Thanks for posting Chris It is a real eye opener for you when you do a video but a great learning tool. Thanks
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    Very nice! I REALLY liked the way you instructed your bird guys. Clear, concise, calm and when it went south you remained just the same. Too many shouters out there!

    Bus is a great looking dog. But please, please tell me there is a fence between the field and that super busy street in one of the backgrounds. When the dog crossed the rise he disappeared. One that runs fast and long, could be out there before ya know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie B View Post
    He probably is, we just can't see it... LOL!! Some dogs are darn serious about their work....

    Now the brindle pit had a hell of a good time!!!!

    Angie
    I thought you were "returning phone calls"? everyone on your speed dial list or just didn't want to talk?
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    When the title was "HANDLE" I expected to see you perform on a blind .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dman View Post
    I thought you were "returning phone calls"? everyone on your speed dial list or just didn't want to talk?
    What do you think? I hang on the phone?? I cut to the chase... Gotta get back to RTF...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie B View Post

    You fuss to much with Buzz hand cuing on the singles. Also you stand to high on the dog. Drop back to his hip. It will give you more room to push/pull your dog. It also opens up the field for the dog. You should step up if need be to help the dog find the gun, but then drop back before you call for the gun.
    I disagree.

    I prefer standing with my inside leg even with the dog's shoulder.

    I think that the dog is more cognizant of where you are and that small movements on your part can influence the dog when you stand more forward on the dog.

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