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    First off this is just based on a sample, I am still adding more dogs. The raw data is from entry express not AKC.
    This is how many entries it takes to get their FIRST 5 master passes

    Sample size was 370 dogs with 5 or more master passes. the sample was taken from across the US including Alaska.
    The 370 dogs required 3675 entries to get 5 passes.
    This means the average dog required 9.93 entries to get 5 master passes.
    Broken down by year of getting last pass:
    2012 (55 dogs) 527 entries (9.58) entries to get 5 master passes (52%)
    2011 (134dogs) 1383 entries (10.32) entries to get 5 master passes (48%)
    2010 (52dogs) 509 entries (9.79) entries to get 5 master passes (51%)
    2009 (43dogs) 443 entries (10.30) entries to get 5 master passes (48.5%)
    2008 (36dogs) 334 entries (9.28) entries to get 5 master passes (53.8%)
    2007 (36dogs) 336 entries (9.33) entries to get 5 master passes (53.6%)
    2006 (14dogs) 143 entries (10.21) entries to get 5 master passes (49%)

    Note this is an average pass rate of 50% for all dogs (to achieve 5 master passes) in the sample.

    So the pass rate was higher 53.8% and 53.6% in 2008 and 2007 for dogs that achieved 5 master passes than in 2011 48% pass rate.

    I only have a sample size of about 20% of the dogs from 2011 as their were 697 MH titles or about 1 in 5 dogs that got 5 master passes ending in 2011.

    Those dogs with a UKC# on entry express (68 dogs) required 9.16 entries on average to get 5 master passes. (54.6% pass rate)
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    James Spencer has been producing these stats for years. In fact, the re-release of his book _Retriever Training Tests_ includes a comparison of 1994 and 2003 and includes all three levels of testing and all three standards....AKC, HRC, and NAHRA.

    I also recall that a member of RFT does something similar and issues the table each Jan-Feb. Thought it was Tim West but I can't find the messages in the archives.

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    Also remember that some dont run at the lower levels and come to AKC after running HRC. Those dogs require 6 passes, which may have an impact on your numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Johnson View Post
    James Spencer has been producing these stats for years. In fact, the re-release of his book _Retriever Training Tests_ includes a comparison of 1994 and 2003 and includes all three levels of testing and all three standards....AKC, HRC, and NAHRA.

    I also recall that a member of RFT does something similar and issues the table each Jan-Feb. Thought it was Tim West but I can't find the messages in the archives.

    Eric
    Spencers book does not go into the detail like the stats above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liv2Hnt View Post
    Also remember that some dont run at the lower levels and come to AKC after running HRC. Those dogs require 6 passes, which may have an impact on your numbers.
    If you notice I never said any dog had a title. The above numbers are just concerning getting the first five master passes, most dogs might get a title but I never looked to see if they did or not.
    Also of note is the south east area had a better pass rate by a few percentage rate and the northern Midwest had a slightly worse pass rate. I wish I had kept the region of the US in my info.
    On a side note does anyone know how to calculate dates in Microsoft Excel?
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    Number of dogs passing a Master Test means nothing considering the amount of Master Titled dogs that run.
    Would be interesting to see the pass rate for non titled dogs.

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    These are non titled dogs. these are the FIRST 5 master passes these dogs recieved.
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    Here is the average age at the time these dogs got their FIRST 5 master passes.

    Average age for all dogs is 4 years 66 days (4 years 2 months)


    average age for dogs getting their 5th pass in:

    2012 is 3 years 332 days (3 years 11 months)
    2011 is 4 years 128 days (4yrs 4 months)
    2010 is 4 years 4 days
    2009 is 4 years 40 days
    2008 is 4 years 4 days
    2007 is 4 years 182 days (4 years 6 months)
    2006 is 4 years 46 days
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    Interesting stats. Thanks for compiling and sharing. Would be interesting to see a breed breakdown and to see the youngest age at time of 5th qualification.

    I could also use a detailed financial analysis of my business, as well as some projections for income vs workload - can you do that, too?

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    So a dog getting 5 Senior passes, 5 Master passes, and an HRCH title before age 2 would be pretty good?
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