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    I think I might have to retract some of my sympathy for the Paterno family. They have strongly criticized the results of the Freeh investigation.

    They also fought for the $5.5 million package of goodies in Joe's contract, in spite of the fact that he was fired with cause. There was a $3 million bonus in there for retiring at the end of the 2011 season. Joe's wife gets use of the hydratherapy service of the University; as well as 25 years of a box suite at Beaver Stadium for the family. The line was drawn, however, on the use of the Penn State private jet. The deal also included forgiveness of $350,000 in loans to Paterno from the University. One might think that with the $3 million, they could actually pay for the hydratherapy and pay off the loans.

    The saddest part is that if both Paterno and the University had done the right thing & taken action immediately (back in 1998), they could have retained their integrity & protected those kids. They would have been heroes. Any "scandal" that might have resulted would have been nothing compared to what's happened now. Sort of makes me wonder what Sandusky had on them that made them leave him alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    I think I might have to retract some of my sympathy for the Paterno family. They have strongly criticized the results of the Freeh investigation.

    They also fought for the $5.5 million package of goodies in Joe's contract, in spite of the fact that he was fired with cause. There was a $3 million bonus in there for retiring at the end of the 2011 season. Joe's wife gets use of the hydratherapy service of the University; as well as 25 years of a box suite at Beaver Stadium for the family. The line was drawn, however, on the use of the Penn State private jet. The deal also included forgiveness of $350,000 in loans to Paterno from the University. One might think that with the $3 million, they could actually pay for the hydratherapy and pay off the loans.

    The saddest part is that if both Paterno and the University had done the right thing & taken action immediately (back in 1998), they could have retained their integrity & protected those kids. They would have been heroes. Any "scandal" that might have resulted would have been nothing compared to what's happened now. Sort of makes me wonder what Sandusky had on them that made them leave him alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Your source is incorrect. Kentucky instituted their own Death Penalty and not the NCAA. 60 years later some may try to attribute it to the NCAA but, ask any Kentucky fan from that era and they will tell you that Kentucky decided it was best to punish themselves! It wasn't until after the U of K suspended thier program that the NCAA sanctioned it.
    With all due respect, if/when you find a source to substantiate your claim, please post it. Thank you.
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    One thing I never seen mentioned is any spectulation as to Sandusky victims before 1998. You know he just didn't start doing this at the age of 54. I believe he started Second Mile in the 70's, closed it in 1988, but kept their licence until 1999.
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    http://blog.al.com/wire/2012/07/arti...ternos_ha.html

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    Artist paints over Paterno's halo on Pennsylvania mural

    STATE COLLEGE, Pa. An artist has removed a halo from a mural of Penn State football coach Joe Paterno amid the school's child sex-abuse scandal.

    Michael Pilato had put a halo over Paterno's image after the beloved coach's death in January, but said he felt he had to remove it Saturday after a report that Paterno, former university president Graham Spanier and others buried allegations of child sex-abuse against ex-assistant Jerry Sandusky. Paterno's family denies the claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Your source is incorrect. Kentucky instituted their own Death Penalty and not the NCAA. 60 years later some may try to attribute it to the NCAA but, ask any Kentucky fan from that era and they will tell you that Kentucky decided it was best to punish themselves! It wasn't until after the U of K suspended thier program that the NCAA sanctioned it.
    Franco, isn't your arguement a mute point anyway as self sanctions are a way to tell the NCAA what the institition is going to do? If UK did nothing, the NCAA probably would have given them the DP anyway?
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    If the NCAA feels it has any possiblity of being dragged into these Penn State lawsuits or one in the future, they will most likely come forward with a stiff sanction and some new rules to try and blunt any effort to show they looked the other way in the Sandusky case or would tolerate not reporting it to the cops in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LokiMeister View Post
    Franco, isn't your arguement a mute point anyway as self sanctions are a way to tell the NCAA what the institition is going to do? If UK did nothing, the NCAA probably would have given them the DP anyway?
    UK knew the NCAA was on to them. They committed suicide before the NCAA executed them. Then, the NCAA took credit for the suicide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    UK knew the NCAA was on to them. They committed suicide before the NCAA executed them. Then, the NCAA took credit for the suicide.

    the old "poison pill defense"....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    UK knew the NCAA was on to them. They committed suicide before the NCAA executed them. Then, the NCAA took credit for the suicide.
    As YOU like to say, semantics...
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